Yeah, vut given the MICA and AAM-4 we are doing that already, so it’s better to keep everyone somewhat equal.
id rather have domestic built vehicles first, i can accept this, if its the only option. i just see it as a lazy cop out
I admit, for years i wished to have a lot of addition like that, same as other countries already got, but if it’s for be more than 80% of foreign stuff… Meh.
Where are the dozens of AML, VBL, VMR, VAB variants, the big family of Lohr vehicles etc…?
Hmmm, oh well, you will be busy with MICA bug reports anyway
In regards to Benelux? Absolutely. But other than that there is very little wrong with the list.
Was working, didn’t hear news about XM800T until now
I think I have something in my eye
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The Mirages 2000 cannot carry PGMs, Dassault opposed this so that it remains a monopoly on Rafale (even if certain countries have bought them to put them on Mirage F1)
Probably one of my biggest concerns, though not so much blocking domestic options but delaying them. I do not want to see this trend of adding sub-trees as a crutch continue.
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Your wish came true :D
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France does not need any additional help, just more domestic vehicles.
Benelux needs to be its own Tec tree not an addon for France
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wait can you no longer search on the forums by nations anymore? was looking for the harrier 2 thread but cant find it
You know, France Rank 4 could have been filled with indigenous aircrafts, had Gaijin not chosen the easy way to fill the gaps…
On the top of my head, you could have seen the Arsenal VG 90, the SNCASO Espadon, the SNCASE Baroudeur, the Breguet Taon, the Nord 2200, the SNCAC 1070/71…
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Yes! This has bought the snail a fair share of (momentary) goodwill from me! :D
Brazil mentioned XD
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How so? What would bring them C&P?
Thailand has plenty of unique vics, and unless Gaijin repeats this thing of choosing C&P vehicles from the potential pool of (BeNeLux) vehicles then there wont be much if any C&P from Thailand.
I say that Gaijin chose C&P vehicles from BeNeLux instead of more unique ones because I think there are actually more unique ones in their air tree from a quick glance at their forum suggestion. Feel free to correct me
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This.
So many early jet are still missing, and some of them looks really cool.
Idk now it’s TIALD A or TIALD 200 on Harrier GR.7
But I agree change to TIALD 400
Tornado GR.1 equipped TIALD from Jaguar GR.1A ?
I might hope gaijin add Tornado GR.4 early with TIALD 400 targeting pod under Tornado GR.1 in the future
This update is gonna be brutal for germany. Definitly the biggest losers of this update by FAR from the looks of it.
- F-4F ICE (gen 3.5) vs everyone else getting 4th gen jets that outperform it in every way for their fox 3 launchers
- Leopard 2’s for france
- Possibly a premium leo 2 to tank germany’s winrate as well
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Indeed. The 6021 Espadon for example or the Arsenal VG 90 could still be added. Their performances aren’t that great, and they could easily fill the big whole in the air tech tree around 7.0-7.3.
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NF-5A is a canadair/Fokker version of the USA F-5 that can carry between 4 and 6 aim-9J or aim-9N missiles, with a possible aim-9L loadout if they use the later variant. Also had some different control surfaces. Different, but not the same model, obviously.
Mirage 5BA is a Belgian produced version of the Mirage 5: All aircraft were manufactured in Belgium by SABCA, while the engines were made by FN, also in Belgium, but has some differences, such as missiles and bombs. Should also have a different flightmodel, as the nose is different, but very similar. Some sources say it was given a USA attack aviaonics upgrade over the french one. Most importantly it had the US-made Rapport II system (AN/ALQ-178): RWR and radar jammer with also flare and chaff launchers (50 slots).
The F-16A versions have different later upgrades. (and the belgian OCU and dutch MLU ones have different missiles, IR-pods and bombs.
Leopard 1 Cockerill 3105: Belgian Leopard, so it has different optics and tracks. (and of course the whole turret is different)
2A4 NL Yeah, pretty much C&P for the early one
2A6 NL This one has different turret layout and Fire system equipment, but GJN tends to simplify that a lot.
All in all these could be implemented as C&P if GJN doesn’t want to make unique models, but IRL they are different.
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