Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

I have bad news for you, the only better missile systems from here are going to be pretty similar to SPYDER in function. Whilst they may not be ARH, they will likely be SARH and not SACLOS. So get ready for great gameplay of radar lock and hoping it hits.

In reality you shouldn’t even see the target because it would be 100+ km away

You’re right both are terrible for SPAA but to act like the Spyder is fine is a terrible take
It needs to be fixed. And for those that lack SPAA thats better than the ADATS they need actual SPAA. Again the ADATS wasn’t just a SPAA it was a TD. It serves the multirole very well, unfortunately CAS is far stronger than the ADATS now whoch is why they aren’t the end of the line SPAA. To call the Spyder, Elde, CS, or Type 81 end of the line is a joke.

I’m pretty sure 1v1 experiments are almost nothing like actual GRB matches

Same here, they do their job but they aren’t anything special outside of their low speed aoa which is pretty good and saved the Spanish pilot IRL

I would be fine with this if the radar and the missiles on the Spyder were actually somewhat decent.

Derbys are just sad when it comes to effective range and Python 5s is pure RNG if they want to go into TRK mode or if they just want to stay in IOG mode.

Sigh

Yes… GBU-39 is actually very very good in ASB where most AI targets are static.

You can take a lot of them, they dont add much weight and dont overly restrict your A2A.

They are especially OP as bluefor can just delete all AA surround the AFs in a single pass.

Now the nerf I would propose would simply be make some of the AI targets move. Especially some of the SPAA around AFs. but that still doesnt change the fact that the closest equivalent to such battlefield clearing weapon would be MMW or an equivalent GPS weapon.

You are right.

In the uptiers i’ve seen, there is usually 3 or 4 people sat in SAMs.

To call the Spyder and co equivalent to ADATS in SPAA role is also a joke. None of them can reliably take a tank, whilst ADATS farms spawn campers and gives nasty surprises here and there. Doesn’t change the fact they’re all better than ADATS in the anti-air role.

I will have you know i am one of the founding members of this supposed club.

Now if you will excuse me I will do my civic duty as an American and go dump more tea in the harbor.

Now we are entering the compression issue. Though id suspect the reason the adats is 12.0 is the 8 ready to go Anti tank missiles, unless they changed them within the last day they still work fairly well.

We have nothing to counter the SAM, we have no electronic warfare, AWACS, Longbows, HARM, etc. We are fighting with weapons from the 70s and 80s, against modern SAMs that came off the assembly line last year.

Ironic because there are a lot more people doing that. This whole discussion started when Morvran said that every nation now had new TOP spaa.

However when that argument was lost it suddenly turned into that every nation now had NEW spaa.

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Am I welcome in that club?

Will F-5TH gets KGGB?

Okay then, don’t complain and start filing suggestions and reports to fix this. Find stuff to file a report on radar and make a suggestion for I-Derby ER.

Complaining never gets all too far on the forums dispite the forums being a majority of complaints.

People changing the argument on RnR no, it can’t be, nobody does that

It’s not 12.0 even. The anti-tank bit still works fairly well, but I think it fails to lock onto aircrafts more often after the radar screen update…

All of this has already been done, as early as during the dev server of the last update.

Derby-ER was accepted as a suggestion months ago iirc.

People do and gaijin either marks them as a suggestion or they say passed to the devs and sit unchanged for years. Ariete armor moment

Woah 62 pending suggestions is insane. I hope they will be published. At least, this one is not going to rot forever on the forum. As a magic II enjoyer I am really looking forward for this addition.

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