Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

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8203

super modern stuff, is a lot of stuff that war thunder hasn’t implemented and will require tons of work… if they are sayin 130kmx130km is a limit for map size, missles fly that far alone and missiles being developed that go FURTHER than 130km, there isn’t much engagement in normal matches to allow rewards for players that just get deleted from 100km from the battle field regardless of game mechanics in the game or not.

stealth truly needs to be implemented and not a bug where you can be 300m from target and you won’t see the name tag (a good idea for stealth)…

battles cannot start in firing range for most missiles (besides the few acutal large maps we get) #grandcanon is goat/amazing example for larger maps…

active equipment needs to exist aswell, just a lot of things in general to make very modern stuff actually work…

or we will just get a f35 as example, with aim 9m’s and 120b’s…

super late and not spoken correctly, for free no charge added.

8204

The big question is LOAL.

Because from what I understand. SLM is 25km ish range without supporting the missile.

So 25km isnt all that unreasonable for top tier at the moment.

If we do have some form of LOAL, then it could reach 40km.

Its just tricky.

I assumed SLS was meant for testing IIR in game, but SLM does seem really extreme for that.

I guess the question really comes down to the counter play, or if SLM has multi-vehicle, how that is modeled and if its vulnerable

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8205

Fun fact: We already have IIRs in game, the Ty-90 (and even PL-5EII, also, as it uses the same seeker), both are IIR irl. I think there’s technically some more but, yeah.

Gaijin models them the same way they do ever other IRCCM method they don’t feel like modeling, gatewidth + tracking suspension (or just gatewidth in the 5EII’s case).

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8206

Fair enough, but still not IRIS-T, ASRAAM, Aim-9X, etc etc

8207

Honestly? I feel like they’re gonna have IIR AAMs use the same things, honestly there’s not much reason to have more advanced IRCCM modeled anyways.

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8208

the surface area of a map 130 km by 130 km is 16,900 km²
Malvinas have a total surface area of approximately 12,173 km²
If you travel diagonally, from one tip to the other, it’s almost 185 km.

8209

bro all the SAMs being added right now would be playable, they are not going to be static things they were really clear with finding a way or mechanic to introduce them as playable vehicles also in the leak list of mike if you saw IRIS-T SLM ----- GER (PR) the “PR” part is for passive radar most likely and this means it would be 2 vehicles the main battery and the radar.

8210

The best theory i’ve seen is a much narrower gate width than we have already in game combined with maybe seeker shutoff or push ahead or something to create a “dual-IRCCM” seeker.

But I was really surprised the SLS devblog had nothing for this

8211

As far as these places never hosts any airfield, this seems to be the only possible layout.

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8212

Being a Diaganol map will help a little at top tier (180km between the 2 points and not just 130), but still. What a missed oppotunity

8213

yeah, it’s very likely. Great catch.

It’s a shame we dont have a sim version
even a ground map for goose green would be great.

8214

Still want that carrier battle, since there will probably never be another one, so this is the closest moment to an all deck carrier to carrier engagement in post war history and likely the last

Just get both sides CATOBAR(ark royal and forrestal) and allow any nations any naval aircraft at the same BR to participate

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8215

Yeah, in RB that would be new and unique

8216

Can work for sim as well, so like, its the same except all air bases are replaced with carriers

8217

Oh, you mean pure carrier vs carrier?

Issue is, there just isnt enough carrier aircraft and so the matchmaker would probably be pure F-14s or Harriers

8218

Su33’s are a decent counterpart

8219

So you might have F-14A vs Su-33s at top tier, maybe the odd SHar FA2.

But below that?

F-18 vs Yak-141?

F4 vs F4?

Then its SHar vs F-7/F-6E

Then Harrier vs Yak-38.

Just isnt enough for a continuous MM above the props I think

8220

Yeah it’s not much

8221

yeah russia dosent really have that many carrier capable aircraft the only one they could still get is the mig-29k

the only nations that have a decent amount of naval planes are the US and Britain, with a few being in the French tech tree as well

(ignoring props)

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8222

Which are all on the same team in sim (with the exception of France sometimes being on the other team). Turns out nobody’s got carriers.