But turning tanks into driving bushes with said bushes at completely unrealistic angles is rational?
clear and undeniable evidence that russia is underperforming and needs a 360 degree 1000mm titanium shield
The AJs loadout it probably more real than the actual AJ.
The F-16(A)J variant was a Block 10 derived aircraft with Sparrow integration, additional gear door hardpoints (including the two piece gear doors akin to the YF-16) and other minor changes such as removed nuclear capabilities. This variant was never built.
The loadout, specifically the currently unavailable Sparrow loadouts and gear hardpoints were tested on a YF-16A.
That’s not the same as the AJ, but what Gaijin gave us isn’t the AJ either, but an illogical made up “what-if” that is just a basic Block 10 with the Sparrows of the ADF and removed GBU-8 for no reason at all.
Gaijin
Made
Them
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Feature
You can’t have players lose items they paid REAL LIFE MONEY FOR because you consider this feature to be “unfair”.
We are not talking about cheats, hacks or exploits here- we are talking about an official, ingame FEATURE.
As I said; I get that you dislike them, and I wouldn’t mind if bushes were removed- as long as they were properly refunded.
I think the best course would be to just rework and fix bushes altogether. Make it impossible to place them floating vertically on edges and corners, flatten them, make some of them less voluminous, etc. Camouflage bushes, just like camouflage nets, are a part of armored warfare.
when gaijin puts camo nets and improvised camo on more tanks in tech trees then i’ll outright stop putting bushes on them, but right now we have no way to recreate things like this :
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so Decals are p2w because there is a chance that they can distract players due to being placed at unrealistic angles?
The thing is, barely anyone recreates something like this. They just basically creates a wall of bushes at the front of their tank instead
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Decals dont hide the sillouette and weakspots, do they?
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which is why i said we can’t do this in game currently
they can paint small tanks completely black, creating the illusion of destruction
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Thats already the case with bigger tanks like MBTs even, like the russian late green camo and the black nights black camoflage. And its still a lot easier to tell if they are dead or not. Just seems like you are moving the goalpost
This is why I think the solution to bushes is not to eliminate them, but to rework them;
I honestly don’t think there’s any issue with my bushes here; realistic-looking, not excessive, physically making sense,
However, I do think there’s an issue regarding excessively voluminous bushes, specially the fact that you can place them floating vertically on corners and edges.
Basically, as I posted a long time ago already;
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/up5foo/if_bushes_were_properly_implemented_perhaps_there/
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That would definitely be preferable. And this is exactly what I am talking about, in your second image there
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bushes should be relegated to exclusively fir/regional branches and places on the hull, turret cheeks and barrel:
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Indeed! I agree with you in the sense that bushes currently allow for some embarrasing and indecent with their placing (edges, corners, floating) and their designs (excessively voluminous spheres), and I think a big rework should be in order at the very least.
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1000% agree! That’s why I only got fir bushes for myself; because they are the only ones that look and feel acceptable to me as of now.
I mean, I don’t think these kinds of bush designs and placements are comparable AT ALL;
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If only you saw more bush placements like the first picture more often. Especially because they both improve the look of the tank IMO and also arent as rediculous as the bush walls driving past you every match at top tier
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step 1: add more fir branches for 500GE
step 2: Remove and refund GE for the generic green bushes
step 3: watch ‘bushes OP’ comments vanish overnight
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Thanks! That’s my own T-90A, hahah. I don’t always use bushes; but when I do, it’s on the lines of that.
And I agree that the bush walls are just ridiculous and that something needs to be done about them.
Two suggestions that come off the top of my head would be to make bushes segmented and adaptable, so that they always adapt to the tank and never float in the air, and to significantly reduce the 3D volume and flatten the current 360º sphere bushes that entirely hide tanks altogether.
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