Oh yes, exactly what Russia needs; another 10.3 premium.
The SU 27M is much better than the SU 27SM. Radar N011 bars, front horizontal tail, better engines. It would be about the same as the J-11B in terms of on-board electronics. It was a plane before the crisis, when there was normal financing. The SU 27SM is a super cheap and simple upgrade of the conventional SU 27
I agree. Sits way too low. Either it goes up or the HSTV-L can come down to 10.3.
I can’t find anything about the Su-27M getting the N011 Radar, pretty sure it gets the Irbis-E.
Why wouldn’t they just add the Su-27SM2 instead of a demonstrator?
The only thing that will be outdated is the rws. In my opinion, the l150 has never been installed on it.
There were some tests done to fit it with different weapons, I believe they tested Zuni and APKWS rocket pods, forward firing guns mounted under the chin and a belly mounted turret from the AH-1Z.
I might be wrong but I definitely seen it somewhere.
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I do love chat gpt sometimes.
" Placement
In short:
- The Kfir C.10 branches from the Mirage III > Mirage 5 line, representing an advanced derivative heavily modified by Israel.
- The Mirage 2000C-S4 branches from a new, separate lineage, with the Mirage III as its conceptual ancestor but no direct design inheritance.
They’re like distant cousins rather than siblings—connected by their roots in the Mirage III, but with independent evolutionary paths."
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HSTV-L is definitely better though right?
Not saying the gap between them should be as big as it is, but there should surely be a gap
it’s not, lol
2S38 is better in almost every aspect
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The N035 would be too good a radar I think at the moment. We need something with N011 . Of the aircraft without a thrust vector, with this radar, I know only the Su27M. From other options, some kind of mig 29K/M with N010
HSTVL is smaller, faster, and has more than 3 times the gun depression
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Oh god the bussian rias copers are back
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2S38 first ammo stowage is endless, unlike tanks with similar weaponry
I have no idea why 9040C and this thingamabob have same BR’s
The Venom is literally just a modernized Huey. Would be a nice option with basically the same armament as the more modern helicopters but without any of the guided weapons
I was more referring to our “friend” over here about to start an off topic flame war over the 2S38
… Ok🤓
I just feel like there is much more locations and scenarios a HSTVL can be useful than a 2S38.
That -17 degrees of depression vs -5 alone is a massive advantage.
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9040C is a better platform with better survivability in exchange for a “worse” gun