honestly cant remember lol
Well I mean, there arent many valid nations for Japan, and with Thailand being passed for suggestion for both Air and Ground as a subtree, it’s safe to say it’s Thailand
How come there’s a vid of the FGR.2 with 9Gs in 2021 then?
False, germany had the Mig19S that was better preforming then the Mig19 of the russian tree
Correct, it has a slightly better flight performance for the cost of having no IR missiles whatso’ever and in turn it quickly became a victim of the F-4Es spamming 9Js that it couldn’t flare because… it has no flares.
Again False it came to the game with R60s as far as I can find anyway which was a video from the start of 2020
I was playing the game already at the time and I don’t remember it having R-60s when it was added, which happened to be in 2019, so… good job?
and again im not oblivious to this fact, you are just wrong some of your statements, you read that the FGR2 was added 2 patches before the MF and think that it was some great imbalance oblivious to the fact its radar was barely functional had worse missiles ten the F4C (AIM9Es instead of Ds) a far worse airframe then that of the F4C and Mig21 F13.
Yeap, I’ve said some incorrect things, but you don’t seriously think me being wrong in some topics takes away from the main point, which has this entire been that you think “UK has had it worse than Germany this entire time”.
If you think F-13s flight performance was in any way “good” then you’re delusional, btw.
you also seem to forget that when the FGR2 was added SARH missiles werent in the game yet they werent even added until 2 updates after the Mig21 MF had been added to the game, so no it wasnt nearly as bad as you are trying to make it out as.
They were added in the update Starfighers (May 2020), whereas FGR.2 was added 2 patches earlier (“Shark Attack” - October 2019).
Andd then what?
Britain then didnt get a new top tier jet for 4 years!
In that time Germany recieved the 21 BIS, Mig 23, F-4F 2 versions and the MiG 29 came out the same time as Britains Tornado F.3Germany have always eaten good.
I’ve named the MLA specifically so I dunno why you’re bothering to bring it up, but F-4Fs? You gotta be kidding. F-4F Early alone has managed to achieve the worst ever WR on Thunderskill in the tracker’s operational history (guess that’s what playing against Sparrow & 9G/J spammer does to a jet with a good for-nothing RWR and no flares). Whereas F-4F Late was added at the time where Sparrows have already become “meta” and PD radars started making their way into the game.
That is not “eating good” @luque13. There’s a reason why the old forum was littered with threads about F-4F Late and it needing AIM-9Ls.
The only times we’ve “eaten well” was during (eventual) MiG-21MFs & (actual) 29s “reign”, Bis SAU was added way too late to make any difference for us (added in the same patch as the MiG-23MLD btw!).
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there aren’t any valid sub tree options for Germany either
and with Switzerland not passed for consideration it’s imo safe to say it’s not Coming
the MiG-21MF was added with R-60s as it’s main feature
I was there too yk
you’re mistaking it for the F-13, that one only ever had R3S
Switzerland has a grand total of 3 countries whose subtree it could become, those being Germany, France and Italy. However, 2 of those already have subtrees (France with Benelux and Italy with Hungary and Romania confirmed). Germany is the only other option, and arguably has been THE only option from the beginning.
Any other subtree options for Germany have already been denied (Netherlands, Argentina, Poland).
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Switzerland.
and with Switzerland not passed for consideration it’s imo safe to say it’s not Coming
Has India or SAF or BeNeLux “passed for consideration”?
Pretty sure India hasn’t actually got a “suggestion”, BeNeLux’s still hasn’t been passed for suggestion, and I don’t think there has been one for SAF either.
But in any case, suggestios are, as the name denotes, simply suggestions for future additions, Gaijin has added and will continue to add content even without them (my 2A7V suggestion for example wasn’t “passed” until the vehicle had already been added to the game).
the imo most realistic option is it not becoming a sub tree at all
I honestly don’t understand why you take it as a given that Switzerland will be added just because there’s one swiss vehicle in game
nobody is talking like this about Australia, Syria, cuba etc. they too have vehicles in the game
Swizerland has enough vehicles to be a whole tech tree, similair to the size of the swedish on.
And it could get austrian sub tree
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yes BeNeLux was passed for consideration
This would have been a valid point up until Gzsabi’s leaks. All things point to the addition of Swiss aircraft.
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again thats just speculation
Gzabi multiple times said, when we were fighting over german sub trees, that Switzerland is not whats coming and that he knows of a different nation
Thai subtree has even been denied…
…in favor of a combined SEA subtree that is likely to come this year.
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You sure?
you’re mistaking it for the F-13, that one only ever had R3S
I stand corrected in that case.
the GROUND tree isn’t passed no
you’ll find the Air tree in the Implemented section
The armour makes me happy I’ve got to say. Maybe closer to Mississipi if you include the turtleback?
And the shells of course should be way better than Bayern and better than Hood.
I don’t see “BeNeLux aviation” suggestion in there. Are you sure you’re not confusing it with individual Belgian/Dutch aircraft suggestions which do appear in there?
thats just wrong lmao, it was Update Raining fire - [Development] SARH Air-to-Air Missiles - News - War Thunder
fair enough my mistake apparently was also added in the update raining fire
which wasnt fair and I wont deny that.
The R60 came out in updaete 1.85 supersonic R-60 - War Thunder Wiki which several patches before the Mig21 MF came out.
With 10% of their EFT fleet in working condition ?
No? Sparrows were added in 1.95. Do note that I have never commented there on whether they were FGR.2s Sparrows :)