I was saying that generally leclercs are superior to merkavas
and france in general since as an israel main i hardly have decent things to fight with
bad AA, bad main tank, no ifv at all, just a decent barak 2 thats gonna be downed instantly by pantsir
usually that most happen to projectiles that causes no spall, like you shooting in the side center or a centurion, depending on the height related to the vehicle you do no damage at all
im boucing shots when i shouldnt, even in front
every fix they do it seems like my armor is different, its crazy retarded
the only plate that bounces and should actually bounce its the one on left under the barrel, but its not consistent like on abrams
Yeah that’s true but dosent quit the fact that some damage models are twice as fucked as others such as merkavas having a Bad damage model but leclercs being more punished by getting front pen’d by BMP2’s autocannon fire either through the breach lr lower hull plate, or the ZtZ 99 wich the breach over extends cuz gaijin can’t differentiate between a cloth and a breach, or the type 10 wich it’s the worse one because the armor is not only wrong but lower hull plate has slightly wrong angle, and it’s supossed to be a hollow part with a 50 mm plate after the driver’s feet wich btw is in the wrong position aswell as the armor being reversed and upside down
Benerance anyone ?
Hehe, hol up
Ah you know, to the people that hate the BeNeLux techtree suggestion I say…cope and seethe xD
But no on a serious note, everyone is allowed to form their own opinions on new techtree ideas. I just ask that people try to take a neutral stance when looking at the ideas, and don’t jump straight to conclusions and say it’s all copy paste and spread that around the forum
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Dunno…
From wiki (i know i know… But this give an idea)
Abrams:
7,92 m (hull)
9,83 m (with gun)
Leclercs:
6,88 m
10,61 m (with gun and rear fuel tank (longer gun))
It’s 7,03 m hull for the Tropicalisé variant.
Hull alone should be smaller. It’s not for nothing the weight of Leclercs is smaller vs other usual NATO vehicle, they are smaller, and still could pack a good armor (where spall liner Gaijin?!), but the game is far from what it should be.
5 seconds whatever still extremely OP than merkavas
I have 6.4 seconds with an expert crew, leclerc gets 5 by default?
They should really fix their damage models in order in wich one it’s more wrong and they started with the type 10 probably for the next update, second the ZTZ having size breach lowe Hull angle issues then leclerc with lower Hull and breach issues aswell as fuel tanks and hull armor and then Merkava
160k players currently in game and they cant fix some values, BS at the highest level
I don’t like using wiki a Lot of times it’s wrong with measures, altough sometimes it’s close
I mean that’s what auto loaders do…
I believe this is mostly for the new damage models related to stuff like the Challenger and leopard 2A7V they want to make armor feel more reallistic and consistant basically that every part has it’s own functionality instead of putting a pure thickness value
they literally have to change some values in the code, test them see if they are alright and thats it. But no they r choosing to not change anything at all not even if you would crush their heads with the front plate of a tank, i bet they will look at it and say “fake”
so i should have absolutely no armor on my merkava, they cant change the values to at least something more decent