Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

They had been visible in the Xray on both version prior to La Royale, during the devserver the premium version received this text:
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But the missile itself hadn’t been added then, they had HN-6 as placeholder
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So I’m wondering when this new visual model was ingame, since it doesn’t appear to have been then and isn’t now:
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The SA seems proper modern but reversed

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I don’t intend to argue semantics

Recent look at the data mines

If I may add two cents (though not really related)
When is Gaijin going to add wing tanks for naval Phantoms and Mirage 2000D?
While the central tank isn’t an issue for F-4E and derivatives of it, it is however for naval ones which force you to pick between gunpod or drop tank

4 days ago, same time as the Hungarian roundels.

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That’s a mistral i’m pretty sure. But it looks weird. wings are slitghly different and the main body colors are off. The seeker head and the position of front fins gives it away though, no other missiles looks like this.

Maybe an old model of Mistral SATCP ?

EDIT : it’s a HN6 model, as specified by gszabi

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Interesting, maybe some more SA aircraft or just because SA is a sub nation

It’s an HN6. The Strela file uses HN6 model as placeholder.

ha yup, checked on the wiki and it seems to match indeed

It would be strange to add more SA roundels with only one SA plane

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Would it be?
There is only a single roundel in the files, the modern one (+ the low-vis version, I guess). Fitting, for the Gripen.
At the same time, there are 3 new Hungarian ones, which with the exception of the Jak-9P, cover off the entirety of the current Hungarian sub-tree.

New Roundel was done in 2003 but they didn’t get the Gripen till 2008

That doesn’t subtract from my point. That is the only roundel they could add for the Gripen.

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Let me cope for Cheetah

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So, I had a look into it:

I think its definitely 9.0 or 9.3 material, firstly it’s absolutely tiny, like it is smaller than a MK.24 Spitfire tiny. Here’s a reference picture next to some other aircraft:

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Gnat next to Sabre and Gina
Yugoslav Gnat (2)

(Took most of this from the in-game stats compared with the Gnats official flight data).

  • In terms of speed it is faster on the deck (sea level) than the CL-13 MK.5, Ariete, Lim-5P, F-2 Sabre, Hunter F.1 and just slower than the Mig-17

  • Rate of climb is also roughly double all of the aircraft i’ve listed at 100-109m/s

  • T/W is very high too, like the CL mk.6 im getting out roughly 0.679 absolutely clean, i’m getting 0.98 for the Gnat in a clean configuration… and 0.78 on a standard fuel load, that rivals or exceeds the Ariete

  • Guns, well it has 2 30mm adens with a sligthly lower ammo count as the G.91 R/3 so they hit hard but ammo is conservative

  • Roll rate is in excess of 360 degrees per second, roughly double of that found on the average sabre.

One issue it does have is it’s relatively high wing loading (~320) compared to others sitting at ~240 (CL-13 MK.5), but that’s kinda compensated by every other feature being better than its opponents at 9.0 and potentially 9.3.

So what you have is a faster Ariete that is worse in a sustained turn but has a better T/W.

That is probably a part of why they haven’t added it despite it being exceptionally sought after for being one of the only British aircraft lending itself to the dogfight meta around 8.3-9.3.

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@LtCol-RedFox a correction regarding Squid, sorry:

I misidentified the nodes for the mortar launchers, it 's only the K-guns which are operational right now - the Squid are currently hidden( unused )
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( War-Thunder-Datamine/aces.vromfs.bin_u/gamedata/units/ships/weaponpresets/us_frigate_dealey_bomb_mortars_depth_chagres.blkx at master · gszabi99/War-Thunder-Datamine · GitHub )

Not the first case of a ship having anti submarine weapons modelled yet made unavailable, but hopefully one of the last.

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3-4 weeks for new devblog season.

or 4-6 depending on the month

Wrong more like 7 to 8 weeks

Maybe someday soon


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