Thailand operates the VL MICA.
When vertically launched; it has a operational range of 20 km, just like the newly added Russian air to ground rocket on the newly added su-25
It should be at least 11.7 with the other SPAA with that missile lol.
That’s bias. the time it came out(after fixing), tor is good. slow but with high mobility, and large kill range. while pantsir is something like a super fast stick.
The problem is tor is not suit for the environment now.
In old time, mobility and kill range(not fly range) is more important. For pantsir, it’s missile can move effectively in about 8km, similar with VT-1 and tor, and even lower G load. It’s balanced in some way.
Now, when things like AGM-65D/G, KH-38 spread, max fly range matters.
But honestly, pantsir’s flying stick can only shoot down slow and clumsy things like the drones and SU-25, which is not usual to encounter.
That’s far from a SPAA. It can’t work independently with only a launch vehicle.
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From what I know, that isn’t independent.
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The JGSDF version of Type 11 should be able to funkcion without radar the same way the Type 81C can
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Type 11 Tan-SAM Kai II works standalone
Type 11 Tan-SAM Kai II - An Appreciated SAM for the JGDSF: Part 2
Thailand doesn’t have any (independet) top tier SAM that could be added after Type 81 (C) but some ASEAN nations have; e.g. Singapore with SPYDER-SR.
The VL MICA Thailand operates is unfortunately a multi-vehicle system
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Japan’s main problem is needing a Radar.
but there seems no choice but multi-vehicle system
I love the fact that everyone agreeing with improving the top tier SAM to counter space CAS.
Not hard to do. Best way to solve this is to add a fully functional Radar vehicle at the spawn and only activates/turns on/works when someone spawns on the SAM that requires Radar usage. Once the SAM is dead and no one else is on a SAM that needs it, the machine turns off on its own. That’s how I would implement it though, seems fair to do and simple. The support vehicle doesn’t have to be exact, as long as the radar function that all SAMs can use.
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Huh. I didn’t know that the Type 11 can be used without support vehicles.
BVV_d already said on the Russian “Kings of Battle” dev stream that they’re investigating ways of implementing multi-vehicle systems. It’s hardly some fundamental engine limitation now that scout UAVs in Ground and catapult floatplanes in Naval are basically working implementations of multiple vehicles in one.
I use SPAA a lot. Type 81 C can only punish the bad CAS players and those who make mistakes at 11.0. Luckily there are a lot of them and very few smart CAS players.
The JASDF version of the Type 11 requires support vehicles (e.g. Power Supply and FCS), the JGSDF version however has the same minimum requirement as the Type 81(C); an external control unit (Key-Control-Unit (KCU)), which is can be used like a Console-controler to manually control the launcher and fire missile.
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Where would it be “aimed” from though? The drivers cabin?
Japan right now is in an amazing spot for future SAM
- Type 81 (C) can get ARH missiles of 14km range (with possible an earlier Type 81 (C) taking the 11.0 BR spot limited to only the current missiled)
- Type 91 Kai IIR MANPADS can be added, along with some fixes to Type 91 for a really deadly close range SAM
- Type 11 can be added like Type 81 (C) as launcher vehicle with AESA 15+km missiles
- Type 11 FCS Radar vehicle can be added with towed launcher, adding ground based search and track AESA and datalink
- Type 81 (earlier model) could be a nice early IR SAM that trades IRCCM for longer range and better kinematic performance
- Thai SAM like their Igla, RBS-70, Starstreak and possibly Roland M3S (thought this one is questionable) can fill various SAM holes that might exist
And that is ignoring cannon based systems like the CCV or the multipurpose MMPM
The only Japanese SAMs that require multiple vehicles are Type 03 and Patriot systems. (Edit: JASDF Type 11 too, almost forgot)
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It’s sad that we won’t see them (because Japan).
EDIT: Look at the avarage amount of vehicles for each nation. Japan has a total of 69 tanks (including event and premium ones), compared to the 161 for USSR, 128 for the USA, 151 for Germany and 116 for Great Britain. Despite Japan being added two and half years later then Germany and USSR, 1 year after GB and 2 years after the US.
Which means over the total amount of the existence of Japan (and all other nations after the addition of GB), have been getting less tanks per update then the main 3-4 nations ingame.
Which is on purpose and a real shame, since most/if all nations still have so many interesting vehicles left - which can be added in the current game.
Thai Starstreak
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This^
Why is this necessary?
Could say the same about your previous messages lol.
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When did people hate you?
Look not everyone can be your friend and in my views being a fake friend is worse than being not a friend.
Like I’ve said it’s the internet not everyone will like each other.