Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

The irony.

I don’t like having discussions with stupid people.

@TheArcticFoxxo The guy simply said that Germany received 7 vehicles in Apex Predator (not counting the event ones). I just made a small observation and that’s it.

You can’t even interpret a statistical table. Also, this happened more than 6 hours ago. Don’t waste my time, go get some air.

He was still wrong about that, there were 5 vehicles received… Hilariously enough, there were more than 2 texture reworks too.

He is correct though, as Germany does get more than 4 vehicles on average when looking at the update history

A lot of blah blah, show me the data (but I’ll say it again, without inventing numbers)

Here is a link, work yourself. Or don’t make claims you can’t back up.
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Category:Updates

I don’t think the new event cycle will be related much to new techtrees, we already possess reasonable evidence that more of those will be added. Those are surely still in the pipeline to be added, whatever vehicles become monthly-event-locked are the ones which were planned to be used for crafting/legends of victory anyway.
I can’t see the overlap between not-yet-added techtree 's vehicles and vehicles intended for limited availability being so large as to cause the latter to consume the former 's possibilities.

Plus w/ the last new technology for top MBT 's now coming, there 's no new ways to expand techtrees upwards( not that this was possible for all the techtrees at this point already ) - so it seems even more likely that the horizontal expansion into more numerous techtrees will be the norm from here.


Speaking of Legends of Victory, something unusual datamined:

Vehicles of Victory: GAZ-AA decal
ttcSvy2

All the SPAA GAZ-A versions ingame are the three-axle ones, the GAZ-MM being the only two-axle version.

Even the unarmed GAZ-A in Enlisted is a three-axle version:

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you’re right as always, it was probably a psychotic break lol

yes, this was always my hypothesis. It’s just that with Gaijin one should never let their guard down.

@Motherhen357
By the way, and since you bring up the topic, I am sure that many of the new nations will need an innovative format to be implemented. I wonder how they will do it. Binational trees? Trees with some ranges like Israel? Individual national trees with interchangeable lineups?

Well, it’s not exactly the same thing that does exist with the Sub-tree concept.

Exactly, it’s not the same.

Who stated/started the talk about Binational trees?

I do like the idea and Sweden could be the prototype for this idea.
If we could get binational trees then Poland/Warsaw pact needs to be in this format.

Even binational trees could have a subtree line in some of their branches (air, ground or naval), if necessary.

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They were pretty clear abt how the Nordic 's being in Sweden would not change the techtree from being Sweden, so I’m thinking it’ll be similar for other techtrees to come.
Depending on what gaps they have, and where, it 's possible we’ll see more subtrees like Argentina where the non-main tree vehicles are simply integrated into the otherwise-indigenous lines. But at the point of having multiple flags in one icon on the hangar bottom bar - no, can’t see that happening w/ what we’ve seen and heard before.

I don’t know if this is even technologically possible. Back in the initial WWM events, Israel was represented by duplicating French vehicles into the USA techtree - lineups combining their vehicles weren’t possible otherwise.
I don’t know if things have changed since them, or if they are/would be planned to.

This seems the mostly likely route, though it does depend on which new techtrees come as independent and which ones are subtrees. If a new independent was, for example, South Korea: yes, it would be an absolute positive that this kind of implementation would be the one followed. If it were, again example, Poland, it is possible the implementation could be more traditional and start from Rank 1.

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To me, the problem with Mutination trees is the Gaijin went with Sub-trees instead

Instead of a “Commonwealth Tree,” we got an SA sub-tree and nothing for the other Dommions.

So the closest we will get to having multi-nation trees is the “Main tree-Sub tree” thing as of all the info we have for now.

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Yep, like with South Afirca, I think an “African” tree would have been a lot better. Quite a mix of stuff, like the SA stuff that could probably have made up an entire tree. Instead SA onto Britain.

Most other commonwealth nations are probably going to end up as being shafted for quite a while

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Interesting, although in the Swedish case, its indigenous technology predominates over other Nordic countries. With binational trees I refer to cases where both nations with ties could complete the same technological tree, but their forces are balanced and neither of them predominates.

They divided naval into blue water and coastal patrol. Two separate trees but they can form the same alignment and play the same game. That makes me think it’s possible, but I’m not sure.

It seems likely

poland/germany would be intresting as well, there is a polish vehicle in the german tree already, would be optimal!

That would have been the best chance to see Kantanka’s army lol

But yes, it would have been a tree for many African vehicles that we would otherwise never see. I guess there’s still Egypt, but I don’t think I’ll live that many years to see it in the game.

Yeah, but many regions are the same. Like South America. Probably not enough for any one nation to be on its own and tricky to place any in a Sub-TT. But as a combined “regional” tree. It could just about work.

(I really want to be shooting down Argentinian Daggers in a Sea Harrier :P )

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I don’t think we’ll see nations divided w/in techtrees like vehicle types are. It might (?) work, but I don’t see there being any will to make it work - it goes against tradition in a way which might not have a technological basis when considering new TT 's.

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