F4S br is the same compared to other phantoms
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/4/d/e/2PACX-1vSQX3XMJN_H5neRs3aHvbzZnyVTxFGELgfTfqKPwLEOuNuh7iaQ69HtQaFyTubnuNc1MBCRrI7PWHLL/pubhtml
Im still disappointed we don’t see 12.0 for ground yet
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Blue water ship battlepass reward is a very good news indeed. Hope more will come in future for every navy currently in game.
Italian ships would be cool especially if they would have the beautiful historical camos.
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Did gaijin explain why they don’t extend ground vehicles to 12.0?
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They are going to use the same old “Queue time” excuse
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The 2A7V and Strv 122B+ flavor of the month period likely isn’t over yet.
I think they want to squeeze a bit more time and money from it.
T-90M is also very good. I’d place them all at 12.7 if we had that ground decompression
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Rank 8 was Gaijin making it so things cost more RP because they took away the hicked top-tier RP cost.
That’s really all it is to it. (oh and I guess premiums.)
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I’d place all 3 Strv 122s and 2A7V alone at 12.7.
SEPv1, SEPv2, Leo 2 PSO, 2A6s, Type 10s, Challenger 3, WZ1001, ZTZ99A, BVM and the SXXI with a better round at 12.3.
M1A2, 2A5, Leclercs, Mk.4M, AMV and Leclercs at 12.0.
M1A1 HC, Ariete with fixed armor, Mk.4 LIC, T-72B3, T-80U etc at 11.7.
Mk.4B without M338, Ariete PSO, M1A1 (Maybe with a mod changing it into the M1A1 HA) etc at 11.3.
EDIT: forgot the T-90M. It’s pretty weak for 12.7, would probably place it at 12.3.
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I’d say:
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Strv 122 (all), Leopard 2A7V, T-90M - 12.7
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M1A2 SEPv1, M1A2 SEPv2, Leopard 2A6 (all), Type 10, TKX, Challenger 3, WZ1001, ZTZ99A, VT4A1, T-80BVM, Leclerc SXXI and AZUR if they got SHARD shell - 12.3
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M1A2, Leopard 2A5, Leopard 2 PSO, Leclerc S1, Leclerc S2, Merkava 4M - 12.0
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M1A1 HC, M1A1 AIM, Ariete AMV, Merkava 4 LIC, Merkava 4B, T-72B3, T-80U, T-80UK - 11.7
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T-90A, M1A1, M1IP, Ariete PSO, Ariete WAR - 11.3
edit. Ariete PSO and WAR also need their CL3143 shell
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Gaijin will certainly add another M1A1 instead
Leopard 2A7HU … incoming!
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I love the paintjob, nice colors. I use a 2A7HU skin on my 2A7V. xP
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The BVM should be the 12.7 tank, I guess. The T-90M is way less flexible but it does have better armor. Though the 90M does also have spalliners while the BVM also only relies on RNG and Russian bias.
I think that too but 12.3 kinda fits it better because it’s lacking spall liners as you said
The 2A6 really isnt a strong enough improvement to warrant a higher BR than the 2A5
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I know it isn’t much but it’s still better. If we went by only major differences when picking BRs we would end up with 122s, 2A7 and T-90M at 12.7 and rest of the vehicles at 11.3
Completely ignoring the “disallow a fifth Israeli line”, I see.
2A5 is a backup of 2A6.
Irl it’s hard for me to believe that the L/55 has only 30mm more penetration at 10 meters at a 0° angle. Normal situation, at 1000 meters and at 60°, the penetration is almost identical.
U know, last time when Italy got their first over 600m ammunition, gaijin said it is a big buff…(from 589 to 625)