I think that’s a lot of vehicles, there a plenty of bad vehicles that should get fixed but they aren’t like Elde or Nomads bad or I guess spyder
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Reload is still a suggestion. Strv 103 and DT are both artificially slower than there irl counterparts but that’s alright.
Isn’t the Indonesian Rafale a F4?
But its fine because the devs totally play their own game! and do NOT balance by stats!
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh… it will be fine trust.
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I dont suspect it will be that much different gameplay wise as it would most likely end up with the same weapons as the current Rafale anyways.
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Don’t worry too much about the reload, when I was doing the various reports for the Centauro 2 during the Dev Server I searched everywhere for even a modicum of information, and the only thing that comes close to it are cut footage of the autoloader running that don’t give much conclusion. One day leonardo maybe will answer our question
Tought if they implement the loader + autoloader mechanic it would be great
What will happen according to French mains if a plane that they have for almost 2 years gets added in another country
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Well if we look closer,
the 2A7v is not the worst, still over T-90MA, all Leclerq 's, T-80BVM, … in term of k/d; above are all the 2A7v derivative, M1A2 Trophy and SEP v3, Type 10’s, challies and Merkava Mk. 4.
For the anti-air, the IRIS-T has the second best k/d and kill/spawn for toptier anti air (behind the Sky Sabre).
So the unsavable part isn’t because the toptier is bad, but either the lineup with not enough tanks (Which is not true, every nations have 3 12.7 MBT’s but USA and Sweden (4), Israel and Italy (1), and France with 5), the players doing too much 1 death/leave, or the lack of CAS (Probable, F-18 Swiss and Eurofighter aren’t competitive against Su-30SM/SM2/MKM or F-15E’s, … and helicpoter that aren’t AH-64E or 28NM aren’t usable.)
So what I see is that in term of ground to ground, the unsavable part is true, since the issue is the playerbase;
but if we talk about lineup, it is just suffering from a lack of new addition.
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Isreal has only 2 12.7 the one being mid because of the incorrect amour. And the other 12.7 is a 12.0 SPAA larping as a 12.7
The thing about Germany is that almost no experienced/multination player is playing it right now because it’s become boring with no additions in years.
Leopard 2A7V came in December 2023, as a FIRST counterpart to Sweden’s 3x Strv 122s.
Ever since, other nations have been getting newer and sweeter toys, but not Germany.
And now, to add insult to the injury, Sweden gets DM53 on its 3x Strv 122s.
So… why would anyone play Germany if they have Sweden, U.S, or Russia?
U.S has a better all-around lineup,
Russia has better support vehicles, anti-air and CAS too
Sweden is literally Germany, but 3x times better
So why bother with Germany?
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Meta top lineup.
Strong 9.3 lineup.
There’s a 10.3 lineup I believe.
6.7, 7.7, 8.0…
5.7, 6.0…
4.3 is genuinely OP due to the Jagdpanzer IV.
There’s a reason we should never take win rate as a measure of anything other than where the players are.
Is the Abrams being the most powerful tank for the 8th year in a row causing the win rate spike? No, it’s partly contributing of course, but the skilled players flocking to the powerful vehicle is ultimately what’s causing the win rate spike. It being powerful is probably causing an extra 0.1 - 1 to the winrate, though knowing for certain how much is impossible as team skill is so overwhelmingly what causes win rate [as proven with Leclercs & Arietes].
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10.0 line is Peak (for me at least)
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Because Germany has better CAP and CAS while still having Leos? Also technically SPAA
Also it depends top tier isn’t everyones reason for grinding a tree
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just wanted to compare the CAS capabilities,
Did the gripen even get any Harms or is the wiki page just not up to date?
No harms, only the hornet has them, Gripen did get a major nerf tho
yeah, thats valid then, eurofighter at least got 2, even if arguably it should/could be more
Otherwise i might have argued for a similarish cas capability
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Of course, I was talking about Top Tier.
Regarding CAP, not every Ground player goes around grinding full air trees to then spend 700 SP on a plane that can only engage enemy planes when a 90 SP ground vehicle can do the same.
CAS, maybe is the only reason why anyone would play Germany over Sweden, if they are willing to grind the entire air tree. Even then, a plane with Spices still pales next to AASMs or KH-38s.
“While still having Leos”? Not alll Leo’s are equal.
Leopard 2A7V = Strv 122B+
Leopard 2A6 < Strv 122B PLSS
Leopard 2 PSO << Strv 122A
Leopard 2A5 < Leopard 2A6
Sweden’s 4th best MBT is equivalent to Germany’s 2nd best.
It’s not even just CAS but CAP, your best CAP fighter is the Gripen which also got nerfed by a 1100kg weight increase meaning it loses to F16s in a fight.
So you either pull Gripen for CAS and then are stuck with a trashy Hornet(let’s be real the 14.0 hornets just aren’t on par with 14.7 aircraft)
Or you use a worse EFT for CAP with less missiles and flight performance and then are stuck with the 2nd worst CAS jet at 14.0 only beaten by your other 14?0 Finnish hornet lol.
Thank God MBTs are the only deciding factor for ground and SPAA, helicopters, and jets aren’t a factor at all in a ground match especially at top tier.
/S because you do sound insane tbh, yeah the Leos are strong but that’s kinda it? They literally have nothing else going for them
Thank you, I have multiple personal examples
I only care about 10.0 Germany, don’t care about top tier
I also care about only the R3 because it’s a meme tank and it’s fast, except that I don’t truly want something else from the Italian TT.
In the USA TT I only care about the 6.7 line-up and the Tutel because it’s a meme tank
And in the Japanese tanks I only wanted the 7.3 line-up and I also don’t care about top tier.
And Isreal I got the Merkavas only and only to be ready when they add the Greek stuff I wanted to be ready.
At the end I want to say that top tier isn’t everything and shouldn’t judge the entire TT by it’s top tier stuff.