Good morning fellas, i think something good will be talked about today, in the devblog or here on forum
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The 10RC is so much fun.
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Avon Sabre devblog with the vehicle dropping ONLY in the British tree would be cool.
Hey
We had considered adding Singaporean vehicles to the Chinese tree to provide it with greater variety and gameplay diversity with some vehicles that were not previously possible there. As mentioned in the previous post, this was a consideration and that all our current ideas will not necessarily be implemented. Ultimately these plans were and are not set in stone. We’ve now gone over your feedback and considered it within our plans. We’ll be looking to place Singaporean vehicles in a number of trees, most likely with their vehicles going to whatever tree is most applicable and relevant on a case by case basis and best suits each specific vehicle.
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Pruttel, my beloved!
Still amazed that you’ve managed to find an actual pic of a PRTL modified with Stingers.
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Does it have AIM-120 like range? In the renders this missile seemed SDB sized
That really sad I hoped they would cancel this decision…
Anyway can we expect any News today or is it too soon and everything is subject to change?
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Is there any talks or chance of Singaporean vehicle being in Israel only? Because i don’t see any harm of it being only in Israel
To be honest thats the best decision gaijin can make with SG, using their vehicles as fillers over many nations, israel now gets greece, china and israel, and possibly many other nation can benefit from each and each vehicle coming from SG
I rather the other nation get their domestic vehicles
I can’t find an exact number but apparently it’s “medium range similar to AMRAAM”.
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No plans for this currently. As we mentioned in the same CM update, we already have plans for Greece / Cyprus.
Singaporean vehicles if added will go to whatever tree is most applicable. But nothing to speak of right now.
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One is already up :)
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Since there’s been a discussion about “copy-paste,” I want to throw my hat into the ring. IMO, Benelux additions are mostly fine. The biggest issue is that Gaijin has focused almost exclusively on Benelux additions this year.
I think a 65%/35% split between the host nation and subtree would be better. That gives the main nation plenty of domestic content while still allowing the subtree regular attention.
As for “tech-tree uniqueness,” I think it is often used as a dog whistle by people who simply don’t want Benelux vehicles included in the French tree. This seems to be particularly common among a small but vocal group of French players, some of whom have made dozens of Reddit posts and memes criticizing the inclusion of Benelux vehicles while simultaneously arguing that Switzerland should be added to France instead.
Other subtrees have received far less criticism while providing all of the same precieved issues. Adding Switzerland to France would also bring its fair share of “copy-paste” vehicles, considering that Switzerland operated vehicles such as the F-5, F/A-18, Centurion, Leopard, and M109, among others.
Only wanting Franco-Swiss designs for their subtree also ignores that much of Swiss equipment was also German or American. And many of the “Franco-Swiss co-developments” were also simply Swiss prototype vehicles fitted with French turrets. By that logic, every vehicle with a Cockerill turret could be called a Belgian co-development.
I also think it’s silly to demand that subtree vehicles be completely unique. If we did that, Switzerland would run out of viable additions around the mid-1990s and be reduced to maybe 10 obscure vehicles. The same applies to South Africa, Benelux and other subtrees.
It’s also strange to see French players complain about France being neglected while arguing that another nation’s vehicles should meet requirements like “fill a gap, be unique, be a co-development, and not be redundant.” If those rules were actually applied to subtrees, a huge portion of both existing and potential vehicles wouldn’t qualify. In practice, this would mean those nations would barely be represented, effectively advocating for those subtrees to be neglected instead. As you’d end up excluding a huge amount of equipment these countries actually operated simply because it doesn’t meet some arbitrary standard of uniqueness. A subtree would essentially be forced to pick only obscure prototypes rather than actually representing the equipment that made up that country’s military.
While Main trees can get almost anything without a fuss as long as that nation actually used it, subtrees instead are expected to justify every single addition. If a Swiss, South African, or Benelux vehicle doesn’t fill a specific gap, isn’t completely unique, or isn’t a co-development, some people immediately argue that it shouldn’t be added. Yet those same standards generally aren’t applied to the main nation.
It almost creates a weird player made hierarchy where some countries are treated as inherently more important or more “deserving” of having their vehicles in-game simply because Gaijin decided to make them main trees. Meanwhile, countries placed into subtrees are expected to jump through several extra hoops just to have vehicles they actually operated represented in-game.
This effectively turns subtrees into glorified hole-fillers, where only a handful of vehicles are considered acceptable while the rest of the nation’s actual equipment is ignored.
Personally, I think nations should receive all vehicles they actually used, afcourse including France and the Benelux. as i personally have nothing against french vehicles, I’d rather see a subtree folder system implemented that doesn’t take spots from a main tree like france while still allowing subtrees to properly represent the nations they come from, or some other solution that addresses these perceived issues without needlessly handicapping and limiting subtrees.
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Oh, and it’s quite early in the day! May that mean that there could be… another?
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Ah alright thanks but i GENUINELY hope the devs reconsider the spilt decision, it not too late to add all sg vehicles to Israel
It is too late bro what you mean. Remember that devs take in feedback and consideration from everyone and only make the necessary changes after getting insane amount of backlash. coughF-14Dcough
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(at least 2sg,hunter afv and f15sg in 1 tree pls)