Piranha with horrible HP/t and used a diggers engine (I forgot if it was actually a digger but it was some type of heavy machinery)
Yes but no
It uses Catapliar’s militarised C9 engine, which is also used in other things like the MRAP etc
Horrible HP/t? It has 16.5 hp/t, not far off other wheeled gun tanks, about the same as the Vickers Mk.11 which sits at 17
Doesn’t help we’ve not had a non event French ground or air vehicle in what, 9-10 months?
The French 7.0 line up. EBR-1954, AMX-13, and the AMX-M4 are a fantastic line up that play so differently from most other nations at or around that BR. The unique feel of France is part of what makes it so fun, shame it’s unique feel is getting diluted.
ERC Family. It’s wild we’ve not seen the Sagaie yet, and there are a few other variants that could add some wacky designs and help fill some gaps in the French tree with actual French designs, like:
A Stabilized tank below 9.3: ERC TTB190
An SPAA option between 6.3 and 8.7: ERC-20 Kriss
The Low Profile Mars F4 turret on the ERC-90 Mars f4
And an autoloading directfire mortar on the emc 81
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For the regular piranha 3. It’s pretty horrible
10 Months. I’m not counting the leo1a5BE since its c&p slop
WT players just hate when you play a unique minor nation and not the meta crazy overpowered russian BS
This thing looks incredible, Would love to see this in game (preferably at 8.0 or 8.3)
Gem alert!!
Might be more like 8.7 at the end of the day. Unless the Rate of fire is super significant, it’ll have less pen and hp/ton that stuff like the class 3(p) at 9.0, and would probably be more comparable to a Vickers mk 11 or (if added) the VBC TTB190 and ERC TTB190
Gotta love French turret design, between this, the FL-20, the Serval turret, the Javelot (I know it’s a mock up), etc it really feels like France is the KelTec of Cold War AFV (and wary jet) design
Andd were never getting any of it since gaijin just hates france!! lovely
Eh, the round is lightly worse pen wise than DM23 so it would be fine IMO. I was more thinking 9.0 as it’s a step above the Rooikat Mk.1D FCS wise with 2nd gen thermals and with a better round than the Mk.1D, then +0.3 cause French tax.
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That’s probably fair, though given France’s 9.0 line ups is non existent, it would stop having much utility the moment France gets something like AMX-10RC TML-105 Late (stabilized armored car for 9.3)
Wish I could say, I had a favorite French vehicle but all the true designs have had me wanting to pull my hair out. The ones I’ve enjoyed playing are the US and British vehicles with the French flag or any of the BeNeLux vehicles well grinding.
Like someone else, nothing French, but BeNelux as well. Namely WW2 BeNeLux stuff.
But you can’t ask for that stuff as if they share a part it’s C&P. As seen with the last update where VARIANTS are now C&P. (Tho can’t ask for French vehicle as everything they have also share parts with something else and is C&P)
Talking about the leo?
Add at least a full br to that estimate
Considering what happened to the AGS and its crewless turret giving it the ability to peek without being punished (except by everyone with a HEAT or HE), it will be catapulted in 9.7-10.0 in less than 6 months and given a new shell with like 30mm more pen
Thats true… bump it up to 12.0 its too OP
Yes tho it far from the only example just the most recent and noticable. As well there thing that need improvement (domestic ammo and being movie to the same line as the Leo 2s), calling it pure C&P you might as well call everything in the same family C&P no matter what tree it’s added to (otherwise it’s double standards).
I have to pull an Alvis(that fact I’m seeing the logic in their argument scares me) and point out it has a heavily changed model compared to the other 1A5s, which if it was a lazy C&P job there’d be far more wrong then incorrect ammo (tho its not alone in this issue, so many vehicles in game have incorrect/missing ammo/loadout as Gaijin wanted it at X BR. It’s far more noticable with aircraft but it not all that rare with tanks in the long run) and people wanting it replaced with a one off (or have a different nation lose out of one of its important MBTs do to the KV-1B problem that effects event vehicles) as one of the variants that also has the add-on armour is in game under a fake name to justify the vehicle being tied to add-on armour permanently.
I’d love to accidentally end up upside down then my experience in the AMX-13(F-11). Can’t wait to no longer have to play that thing.
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But like come on, they got a guy to change how it looks ok, But gameplay wise its the same as any other 1a5… and the 1a5 is trash (imo). Is this the best france can get in all these updates… just one lousy leopard without its domestic ammo? Oh and can’t forget they nerfed the leclercs to the ground and made them useless. B-but we treat every nation the same and fairly!
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