Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

We don’t even operate the KE-W 😭

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Besides I have M1A1 FEP at 12.0

The M1A2 is essentially already a 12.7 MBT placed at 12.0 because of US mains just being bad.

So yeah making the FEP a better version would not make it 12.0.

@Smin1080p_WT sorry for the ping on the weekend again. So the Sea Harrier FRS.1 (11.0 Squadron), is it a generic Sea Harrier FRS.1 after the Falklands or is it from a specific year?

Come on, let’s not go there… you know this statement to be highly hyperbolic.

It’s funny; 2nd gen thermals are enough for M1A1 AIM to be 0.7 BRs above M1A2, according to you… but M1A2 deserves to sit at the same BR as Leopard 2A7HU with 3rd gen thermals, twice as thick armor and spall liners for… no particular reason?

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2A7s, 122s and SEPv3s should simply be 13.0.

However if the T-90M, VT-4A1, Leclercs, Merkava Mk.4M, 2A6, T-80BVM, Type 10s etc can be 12.7 the M1A2 can also be 12.7. Especially when the M1A2 easily beats half of these tanks in capabilities.

When Gaijin will finally add separate battle ratings for coastal ships and a completely separate coastal matchmaker from bluewater.
SAM boats should be top tier in bluewater.

I hope this week we get are first devblog and be a Greek/Cypriot vechicle 🤞

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Let us cope together

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Ideally I would say:

13.3:
-Leopard 2A7s
-Strv 122s
-M1A2 SEPv3s (WITH FIXED ARMOR)
-Future: Leopard 2A8s
-Future: Leclerc XLR (if properly implemented)
-Future: KNDS EMBT 2022
-Future: T-14s

13.0:
-T-80BVMs
-Type 10s (WITH FIXED MOBILITY)
-Leopard 2RI
-Leclerc S.XXI (WITH SHARD AND FIXED ARMOR)
-Leclerc AZUR (WITH SHARD AND FIXED ARMOR)
-M1A2T
-M1A2 SEPv2s
-M1A2 SEP
-M1A1 AIMs (WITH ITS HISTORICAL KE-W A2)
-M1A1 FEP (WITH ITS HISTORICAL KE-W A2)
-Future: Production Challenger 3s

12.7:
-T-90Ms
-Merkava Mk.4s
-Leopard 2PSO
-Leopard 2A5s
-Leopard 2A6s
-M1A2
-M1A1HCs
-Leclerc S1 (WITH FIXED ARMOR)
-Leclerc S2 (WITH FIXED ARMOR)

12.3:
-Challenger 3 (TD) (WITH PROPER 5 SECOND RELOAD)
-Challenger 2E
-Black Night
-Leopard 2PLs
-Leopard 2A4M
-T-80UE-1s
-Ariete AMV

12.0:
-T-80Us
-M1A1
-IPM1
-Challenger 2 TES
-Challenger 2 OES
-Challenger 2 (2F)
-Challenger 2
-Ariete WAR
-Ariete PSO


I believe these BRs reflect capabilities while also being faithful to historical fidelity in a balanced manner.

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Why is it so hard for them to make the leclerc not useless, Like what reason do i have to pick the leclerc over the abrams… I love the leclercs looks and that its autoloaded but its just so horrible and boring to play, I just want a reason to play it since i spent so much time grinding for it yk

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Indeed…

Over the years, they’ve fixed them quite a bit: gun elevation speed, turret traverse speed, rate of fire, and given its missing 25 hp.

However, the elephant in the room remains: useless, bugged UFP (should be 575mm KE, like the “beak” of the glacis, and labelled a steeper angle to bounce more shots off), and somehow worse mobility than much heavier Leopards.

very important here yeah haha

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Mostly agreed besides some small nitpicks, like for example the T-90M still being rated too high and the SEPv3 even in it’s current form being 13.3 worthy if the 2A7s/122s are also there.

How likely do you guys think it is that Gaijin will release the SU-30K pack as the new top-tier British bundle in the next update?

Hahah, yes. When talking about some tanks, I believe it is important to emphasise: current state VS theorically ideal state.

Ah, yes, I mistyped that, was about to edit it! I like the T-90Ms a lot, but the painful 7 second reload and terrible reverse speed hold them back a lot.

See, my sense of balance isn’t so skewed after all :P

It’s just that working under currently compressed premises makes everything complicated.

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very unlikely, Britain has better fitting options.

More like that

But, were 2A5 PSO?

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That, + The turret basket really killed it for me, As if it wasn’t bad enough before that now i have to worry about getting sneezed on or i can’t turn my turret anymore, And don’t even get me started on how dogsh awful ofl120 f1 is, Worst dart i’ve ever used.

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Honestly, I did forget about it hahahah. Added it!

You know, I’m not talking about the su30mki. Are they really going to pair the LCA with a Derby as a premium vehicle?