Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

And? Serial production has already begun. The Fenice is already a finished heli.

“Earlier this year, the program entered its final phase of development and capability qualification. Environmental testing will now be completed, while the integration and testing of weaponry, the combat management system configuration, and the human-machine interface continue.” From the Leonardo site. All the weapons they are configuratong now won be in game for a lot of time still so i dont see why it shouldnt come.

They should give those missiles to the Stormer HVM.

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Gajin, doesnt add in service vehicles until they have been handed over.
See KF41, Leo 2a7hu etc. Adding a prototype at this stage doesnt make sense.
The situation is not close to the chally 3 td

I like how you provided a source that it isnt actualy finished and in the last stage, good job.

According to sources of 2 month ago the AW249 is supposed to be handed over to italy at the start of 2028. So there you go, gotta wait another year until possible implementation

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Exactly, because the fenice is a lot more finished than a Challenger 3 TD.

And they are correct indeed, i know how Leonardo works and i’ve talked to a few of the mechanics that came together the AW249 at the Eurosatory26 not long ago (we both speak italian :), the heli will be in service, but you are correct in stating the vehicle is at the very final stages before serial production

The only thing i’d point out like Pier said is that it doesn’t matter anymore if thet add it next update or next year as the finalized configuration was already given, hope it can clear out a bit of confusion

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yeah, and that why you can wait the final strech.

Spike er2 will likely be added and remove the range problem compared to other nations.
Together with MITL the lack of DLRCCM wont be as bad either, so A129 will be fine

I dont trust gajin to correctly implement it at this stage, small bits like positioning of critical equipment etc changing by a bit and so on

Up to their decision at the very end so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Ofc, I can wait, but we have seen that gaijin can make exceptions like the Challenger 3 (A really big one) if a nation needs it. Italy now is the last nation that can get a LDIRCM heli but doesnt have it yet. its an addition that will bring italy closer to a good top tier lineup.

thats literaly one of the last things likely to be integrated, is it even integrated yet?

Yep, under name of ELT-577 QUIRIS, and from a gameplay standpoint it would be senseless to not add it even if it wouldn’t be in service

As it is the main difference over A129D

@TheDidact99
As i have been pointed out by my trusted italian source.

This little bit is the LDIRCM position of the Fenice
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there is some positioning of the LDRCM that is modelled if i am aware, with the current position of it, it literaly only covers the lower half.

There seems to be discussion to add further ones, but here is where the part of finished Fenice having those coming in

You know why AH64 LDRCM one works as well? it sits on the “wing” ends

Correct, the final phase of testing features enviromental tests like this, if and i truly mean if it will be added on pylons or elsewhere it is something new that neither I nor anybody else will know anyway until further evidence or direct service pictures

So yeah, confirmation why i am not a fan of half assed implementation of vehicles like this

You basicaly get LDRCM but its useless for most moments either way

We might just as well wait for the production variant as there is always a non-zero % of something changing even when the contract is already signed…

italian 2a8 order lol,
People so sure of that going trough

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You exactly got the reference i was talking about, props XD

I pray for a new top tier french MBT, or a leclerc armor rework next major… OR BOTH? one can dream.

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i mean, the XLR wont rescue france
Armor rework? hell no.

Best bet for France to get an armored MBT is the EMBT and if you know you know why thats the case

one of the reasons i only believe vehicle configurations until they have been handed over