pikachu genuinely trolling US
lets get back to topic: What planes can carry the GBu 53?
The F15e the F16c i think are the only 2 at top tier that would im not sure about the superhornet
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SEPv3 is basically years long overdue by now.
It should have come alongside the horde of Strv 122s, or, at the VERY least, alongside the 2A7s. Yet… here we are still.
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C-Tech Leopard 2A4 for Indonesia, I must get
Harimau/Kaplan?
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Oh, hey, hey! If it’s a C-Tech, now THAT would be a quite interesting…
Oh, my, PICTURE THIS; C-Tech, DM33, 11.7.
THAT would make sense, and THAT would be something I would look forward to! An additional spawn to the Type 90-based lineup. A Type 90 sidegrade itself, trading rate of fire for armor protection.
I would be bored if it were yet another B-tech 10.7 Leopard, but… if it were a different, higher potential version… it could be a much more exciting vehicle, in my opinion!
Yes, that!
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im in shock how much people are underestimating the SEPV2
Again, incorrect.
The SEPv3 takes a massive mobility hit. The 66.8 ton weight figure from the suggestion puts it in line with the SEPv2 w/tusk, which isn’t even close to the most mobile tank at top tier lol. Hell likrly even less mobile thsn the 2A7V.
Like I said. Go play the SEPv2 with TUSK equiped in game, you’ll see the mobility drop hard.
The LFP is a almost guaranteed one shot kill against the Abrams every time I hit it there. Either that or it’s crippled beyond repair.
Also people have done guesstimates on the SEPv3s hull armor. The absolute very positive guesstimates were 600mm vs KE, but more realistic guesstimates only gave it around 520mm vs KE, which put it considerably behind the 2A7V.
- The 2A7V has gen3 thermals vs the SEPv2s gen2
- They are far from perfect counterparts lol. There is one thing that almost every decent top tier player generally agrees on, which is that there are no true 2A7/122 counterparts.
You haven’t even played any of the SEPs, so yeah I wonder why I take your opinion on these tanks with a large amount of salt.
The SEPv2 isn’t even the best Abrams in the US tree lol.
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SEPv2, added in 2023, is the same as SEP, added in 2022…
…which is the same as base A2, added in 2019 (minus thermals)…
Basically, every single nation has been getting sweet, unique, different, upgraded vehicles while the U.S has been getting the exact same vehicle for 7 years.
Naturally, I look forward in excitement to the ONLY chance the U.S has of finally getting an MBT that’s not exactly the same as all others.
SEP and SEPv2 should have improved turret armors, but… Gaijin “accepted” the reports and continues to ignore them after all these years.
They could have given at least SEPv2 M829A3 as well, which in their own words “would not change anything”, just for the placebo effect; yet they don’t either, so… yeah. It feels like the same all over and over again.
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While y’all are busy guessing what’s coming next major I’m more curious when we’re going to see BR changes that aren’t soiled by the excuse that “we read feeback but we won’t do anything about it, we shall keep observing cuz X is still selling well enough”.
( we all know what X is)
I don’t know how much of an improvement C-Tech 2A4 is over regular 2A4 but hopefully its not 11.7. Ideally it comes as 10.7-11.3 because there’s lots of Japanese CAS that need a ground lineup. Even 11.3 would be sweet, the F-5 CAS got left behind when Type 90 + Type 81 moved up, at 11.0/10.7 there’s lots of CAS that have been added but w/o a ground lineup to help.
Also something weird I found out recently (no idea if its true) is that apparently the Indonesian Leopard 2A4+ are C-Tech but the Leopard 2RIs are apparently B-Tech?
Harimeow :3
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Slightly off topic, but I think that the Leclerc is probably the oldest in game tank at 12.7.
It was added in 2019 and has been barely changed besides the reload buff, yet it got moved up everytime over the last (almost) 7 years. It’s wild to think about.
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yes it does get heavier but also gets upgrades to compensate just not direct engine power
not talking about the LFP armour more just the 2 fuel tanks can mess you up due to volumetric but im not gonna bring “if” in to the debate because thats unprofessional
1: more talking about the 122s
2: people over estimate the leopards way to much the slower reload and worse nato hump and worse ammo stowage compared to the abrams i really dont see the glaze for them
the sepv1 is the best because its lighter and less ugly and no i havent played any of the seps i am aware of that but i can still have an opinion on them
The 520mm KE guessimate on the lower plate comes from early DARPA testing on potential hull armor upgrades in the 90s; it has nothing to do with NGAP since that started testing in 2015. But since there is literally no info on what NGAP armor value could be, I can see Gaijin using that DARPA armor value, possibly or they might just leave it with a sepv2 hull.
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i 100% agree the sepv2 should get m829a3, instead of just adding another abrams gaijin should actually spend a good amount of time fixing every top tier tank so the game can actually be balanced for everyone
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In that regard, I made this image a few years ago! Ignore the BR suggestions, they are highly outdated, based on the BRs of back in the day, hahah.
Oh, interesting! If I were to bet, all of them will be B-based in WarThunder. Hopefully, they will be C-based! Guess it depends on what they are in real life and whether Gaijin knows/agrees or not.
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Speaking of AMX-13s: I can’t wait to grind the 13-57 when it inevitably becomes an event vehicle
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Sorry if this has already been asked a billion time’s…no way the trailer drops tomorrow? Probably next week right?
That is what I assume too, yes.
Though I guess some others do think it drops tomorrow/friday.
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Because they are so incredibly braindead easy to play. Any other top tier MBT I have to put in a varying amount of skill to do well in, but not the 2A7s.
That is why I hold them in higher reward statistic wise. Stats that I would consider decent in other tanks are the bare minimum in the 2A7s/122s.
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