DM83 and 3 second reloads for the Challenger 3TD in that case please :P
1 second isnt gonna make up for the amazing armor in my opinion, especially when the us faces Russia 90% which has bmpts
I genuinely have no idea why Gaijin doesn’t give it a 5 second reload, even if it takes placing it at 12.3 or even 12.7.
What’s it good at 12.0 for? U.K has NO other vehicles, let alone a lineup down there!
Even make it 11.7 as a true sidegrade to the base CR2s (worse reload for higher pen) or make it an actually relevant Top tank by giving it the same reload as all other CR2s.
thank you morvran i like you a lot
name 1 thing other than armour that the 122 has over the abrams
the abrams has better firepower than the leopards already sure you get like 25mm less pen but you get a better reload rate and ready rack and better ammo stowage
and sure the armour isnt the best the ufp can be trolly and ive noticed some lfp shots getting eaten by the fuel tank
The ECM on the 1st april nuke bombers was also labelled as “IRCM” btw.
worse round and worse ready rack but its a close 2nd imo
In my opinion, Type 10’s terrible gun handling makes it suboptimal.
Slow horizontal and vertical traverse speeds, subpar elevation and depression angles…
In that regard, I’ll have to hand it to the Abrams for most maps with uneven terrains; although in flatter maps, Type 10 is definitely the very best, 4 second reload with 610mm of pen is just crazy.
That place looks like it could be somewhere in Germany? lol
I guess Germany will never get a CV90120 😭
Seriously, I’ve uploaded pictures of the ghost variant to my wishlist about ten times. I hope to see it soon. I really enjoy playing with CV90120 in Sweden tree; I’d like to have a backup.
The way superior teams and better backup tanks to it
Yeah… I still think it could have 5 seconds reload (or at least 5.5 or something) and be 11.7. The total lack of any survivability heaviily negates the firepower advantage it has over the CR2s
only 8mm difference at 60°
superior teams? us and sweden have the exact same winrate at the moment so it doesnt seem like there much better, and better backup tanks is debatable the all the 12.0 abrams are goated and should be 12.7 and are amazing backup tanks
that is true but worse ready rack still and the gun handling isnt fun
I will rephrase this statement;
Name 1 thing other than;
-Middle glacis armor
-Upper front plate armor
-Turret ring weakspot size
-Mantlet weakspot size
-60º arc protection
-Crew and module survivability via entire fighting compartment being coated in spall linersOther than that, name 1 thing the 122 has over the Abrams!
Rather, it’s the Abrams that only has 2 advantages on the other hand, these being rate of fire and thermal quality. Which are nice, but… are they really enough to consider it an equal or even better tank…?
M1a2 is far from goated at 12.0 brother
6 things already lol
My personal favorite CV90 is a toss up between the CV9040C AMAP or CV9040C with LEMUR, also CV90120 with water system



Also what cope? I just like the CVs.
You wanna see real cope, they should’ve made these real rather than mockups
Nah they both have same quality thermals 800x600
Nope! The 122s have 1st g*n “thermals”
Which, truth to be said, is enough for me to be completely turned off from playing them, hahah.
EDIT: aaand now I’m feeling bad for the 122s for not playing with them over such a small thing :')
I must play with them now to share some love with them, I have had them abandoned for long enough!
