Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

[THEPolishThunder]

@oppsijustkilledu-psn

And if sub tree where would it go?

Basically all the nations that could house it have been declined, so probably a tech tree

[Deathmisser]

@Smin1080p_WT

Aviation is also a key point.

Me when I look at India.

Premiums, Events ect

make me sad : (

[Jεcka]

@Smin1080p_WT

But sources confirm their existence.

Please show these sources. Because the missile, after the community did the job for you with research, has uncovered that it only exists as a name in a few brochures, and a plastic mock-up.

[Mreowdako]

They go out of their way to deny some prototype vehicles but a plastic mockup IR kh38? hell yeah here take it!

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Jεcka

Anddd ignored the rest of the post, great. Do tell us, what is the primary factor, however.

Please read the post and you will find out:

@Smin1080p_WT

That has always been what they can offer that nation in terms of vehicle variety and gameplay options.

@Jεcka

Maybe try to answer my questions about fixing things,

If there is a question we can answer then we do. If there is no update to provide, then spamming the topic sadly wont change that.

[Rzi4628-live]

idk what you expect anymore the double rack R-77 pylon source is a picture of a single rack r77 then 1 on the intake at a funny angle making it look like theres a double rack

[Rzi4628-live]

okay sure but side note/question why cant MMW + LOAL brimstones be added they can just artificially nerf them for “balance” like every other nato weapon right?

[genises1o]

different question entirely: can we expect some Pakistani vehicles soonish?

[Maply]

Still waiting for kh-38mt docs or live fire testing, but know, they never show us the evidence

[Balta779517-live]

Jeff-17 B3 when??

[Mreowdako]

Because there simply is none

[racimazzedine]

Peak jeff need to come

[jon_man1199]

@Smin1080p_WT

Israel is far more limited in its options than either of those two trees. Both for domestic and sub tree options.

Heavily agreed there, I’ll admit at first I was a tad confused about Greece going to Israel but on second thought it does actually help both in adding Greece to the game and in giving Israel some neat options. Also it does save Israel’s Naval TT and makes it half competitive… instead of, you know, potentially gaving only three bluewater ships.

That said, what’s the deal with Cyprus being added as well? I don’t think there’s much on their end that could be added or used as filler. Also would Cyprus include the Turkish side of the Island or just the non-Turkish side?

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Rzi4628-live

okay sure but side note/question why cant MMW + LOAL brimstones be added they can just artificially nerf them for “balance” like every other nato weapon right?

This has been answered multiple times:

We dont plan to start artificially “nerfing” weaponary

@Stona_WT

Developer comment: We’d like to mention that Brimstone will only have semi-active laser homing (SAL) mode in the game. The fire and forget mode and the active radar homing seeker will not be available for a few reasons. The primary reason is that this seeker utilizes the “lock-on after launch (LOAL)” mode, this mode allows the weapon to be fired in the general area of a target without needing any actual precision from the operator, who can remain at long range in complete safety.

We feel weapons that can be used outside of the direct line of sight of the target without needing any preliminary reconnaissance or direct user targeting are not currently workable for the game. Weapons such as Brimstone, AGM-114L cause a particular problem and similarly to other ATGMs that have lock after launch modes like the Spike and AJ.168 will not have such abilities in the game.

These weapon types present several issues all at once, they require no challenge to use effectively and have no counterplay options for those being attacked. The attacker can operate outside of the range of any anti-air system in the game, Brimstone is also immune to smoke, so this won’t help either.

ARH modes for air-to-ground weapons won’t be workable until natural and artificial interference to these guidance systems can be implemented, as there are no electronic reconnaissance and electronic warfare systems in the game. Adding these weapons now would allow them to operate perfectly without any counter, which we don’t want to do. Additionally, at closer combat ranges ATGMs with ARH cannot distinguish between allied and enemy targets, and this would lead to a large amount of accidental teamkills as well.

[myzothehero]

Gotta quote myself it seems: “IR brimstone would be a good compromise between the real mmW ones and nothing, doubt it would be hard to make either.” Very clear that I’m looking for a compromise so we have somehow balanced capabilities between techtrees which we don’t. You guys already denied mmW version of the missile for now so the next best thing would be some other option FnF like IR.

We already have plenty prototypes, only paper vehicles, fictional buffs/nerfs on vehicles in the game arguing If something is realistic or not is a very far fetched idea. Most of us would rather have balanced stuff than everything being super realistic at this point. It’s a game after all not a simulator.

…and you DO already artificially nerf weaponry was that a joke or something?

[racimazzedine]

Ban speedrunnig chud

[magach]

@Smin1080p_WT

Ground is not the only consideration for a sub tree. Aviation is also a key point.

And I completely agree.
Israel does need a subtree for aviation. but israel does not need a subtree for ground.

if gaijin will add the greek / cypriot subtree to air only, it will be great, actual needed c&p.
adding it for ground instead of adding other israeli vehicles is a mistake.

[Mreowdako]

Pointing out flaws do be like that

[Smin1080p_WT]

@genises1o

different question entirely: can we expect some Pakistani vehicles soonish?

Naturally as we previously mentioned, there are considerations for the future. But nothing to announce currently regarding the what or the when.

Apart from the J-6C we just had of course :)

[racimazzedine]

I understand but still there is a manner to do it.