Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Any word on when the camouflage trophy for the last update is coming out? Been a while, usually only takes a few days after update drop.

Problem is Russias top tier lineup is perfect.
Best Heli
Best SAM
Best CAS and multiple Kh-38 carriers
BMPT
T-80BVM probably the 3rd best tank in the game after the 2A7s and M1
and then the backups 2S38, BMP-2M, KA-52, Pantsir even T-90M it has so many vehicles that can carry games.

They have the best well rounded lineups.

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Mine has been a gamble, mostly around wether im facing russia or not, may just be that im unlucky and always face the extreme tryhards when it comes to russia

The weakest nation in the game right now is the USA. Gaijin will give you an F-22, but this F-22 will be built to the worst specifications they can find.

enyone know why i cant seam to gift GE rn?
edit: or enything else in the store

Today on Discord we were discussing the US tech tree and why it turned out that the world’s number one army ends up in last place in a Russian game.
Why the M1 Abrams breakthrough tank, which in real life is famous for its advanced armor, has turned into a light tank with no armor in the game.
Why the strongest air force has become an outsider in the game.
War Thunder is not about realism, it’s about bias.

lol

It’s why so many are playing as Russia right now and they can from the side destroy tanks and the ATGMs will kill all none Russian top tier tanks.

It’s been over a year since Gaijin introduced the KH-38MT. Do you see anyone getting a weapon even close in performance? Any nation other than the USSR? No. And over the years, Gaijin has only strengthened the USSR’s aviation and CAS.

BMPT is worthless at top tier. BMP-2M is straight up better than it an every way except “armor”

I will say at 12.7 sure but even at 11.7 that thing is still a shut yout brain off, hold W and most likely get a nuke machine

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Even at 10.7 they are easy kills, same as any T-series. Hit on the driver’s port or front support wheel and they are gone. Hitting the wheel gives the best results because even if in some insane instance you dont get a kill immediately you will disable all turret controls making them unable to shoot back.

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in the current ERA of 4.5th gens the US is just worse then europe, the only thing close would be the F-15EX and even then thats just due to missile count Rafales, EFTs and even the Gripen E will out preform it in close range fights

size of the airforce doesnt matter in a game where you can have hundreds of people in a one off prototype.

They should up the hull armour and give it DU but even then that doesnt change the giant turret ring that is still the easiest way to kill the tank

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It’s the only thing I have ever got a nuke drop using and it was in a 12.0 up tier(i was using it at 11.3). It should be 11.0 and it would have no issues what so ever.

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Yes, but not so perfect.

I think it’s not as good as AH-64E and Z-10ME. 64E has 16 missiles, and Z-10 has fast lock BA-11. AGM179 and BA-11 both have heavy warhead HEAT code, so most of the time they can do one-shot kills.
but they are on the same level, the difference isn’t that big, and they are far beyond things like EC-665.

USSR still lacks top light tanks, these things are not so comfortable for their mobility. but, most TT don’t have top light tanks. and the backups like T-90M and T-80U, all not so comfortable in top.

I will put these together, since current new SPAAs are all powerful enough to make CAS hard to play, so I think not so big difference in current time. And I think IRIS-T’s IR seeker makes it the best, its range is enough for most targets.

So, in my opinion. USSR is the top rank TT in the top, but it’s not perfect, and with some changes, other TTs can get over it. Even China TT, actually its lineup now is one of the best, it is close to surpassing USSR. So it’s just gaijn’s turn to decide if they will make the small change.

Well, in the game, no. All IR seekers share similar parameters. So it’s a 12km tank lock and about a 20km ground point lock.

In reality, it is also inferior. You can’t ask it to be as good as a Patriot-sized missile. but I still think SLM is the best in game, enough range, and non rwr triggering seeker. just not so good at dealing with LDIRCM Helis, but same for ARH missiles.

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again we seem to have completely different experiences where L23A1 just seems to do no damage, either way the thing is still incredibly strong at 10.7 I think they move it to 11.0 and it would be good as it has really good armour but lacks FnF atgms of the 11.3 IFVs

also please for the love of god either reclass it as an light tank or give the other ATGM carriers the ability to get ammo boxes

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The BMPTs are not easy kills. Spot’s I’ve one shot in one game will do nothing in another, and the only thing that changed is the map.

The number of games at 10.7, where it could just roll into spawn because nobody can kill it, is too many.

I would prefer them to move BMPTs up and give them darts. Atakas barely ever do proper damage (often requiring 4 missiles per kill) so your main weapon is the 30mm. Sure you get the ammo box which works for ATGM vehicles that can afford to just camp in one spot and pick people but for BMPT which is not a small vehicle you simply cannot do that. It needs brawling scenarios or at least something mid-range to compete and constantly dropping and buidilg the box then standing there and reloading is not optimal.

it was pretty funny to read lol

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Why is the T-90M, one of the most mid vehicles at top tier, in that list?

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