Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

[AspectOfTheRAGE]

Sorry for the late response, things happened that required my attention and I honestly forgot about it for a bit, anyway…

@Smin1080p_WT

For example, if we take the lowest weight of this source (which states from 26-40), then the crew also need to be reduced from 4 to 3.

I still believe that this statement is extremely misleading in any case, as it can be reasonable interpreted as the <=28t combat weight only being possible on a configuration that has the crew-size decreased to 3 men, which, as I have probably proven to a more than sufficient extend, is simply not true.

The 2002 brochure from then ALVIS Hägglunds lists what is essentially a identical configuration to the one shown on the cover of the 2006 brochure (both brochures even partially use identical pictures) lists a combat weight of <28 000kg for a configuration featuring a 4 men crew.

Same goes for the initial CV90120 (1998-2000 ca), which featured an even lower combat weight of <25 000kg with again, a crew of 4.

Even the CV90120-T equipped with the AMAP-ADS APS (shown first at EUROSATORY 2006, then still with the PLSS sight) and several other expo’s, including MSPO 2007 - which also has the “up to 35 000kg” figure, while being at minimum 500kg heavier due to the APS was still listed with a crew of 4.

(example: MSPO 2007)

And then it’s also important to note that our ingame-configuration was not actually from (or photographed in) 2006 but years prior, being first shown in 2002;

There’s even a full walkaround of the vehicle from ~2004, which is most likely what the 3d model was based on;

A forum mod will definitely murder me if I dont put this into a spoiler

Also worth pointing out that it says “up to 35 000kg” and that with the CV90120-T w/ AMAP-ADS (+500kg!) also has “up to 35000kg” listed, which should already be sufficient to make clear that this weight figure isnt specific to the configuration on the brochure’s cover, but the max the vehicle is rated at (35t is literally the CV 90 MK 3’s maximum curb weight).

So no, a 28t CV90120-T in the same configuration as displayed in-game would NOT necessarily have a 3 men crew, neither is our ingame configuration anywhere near the maximum combat weight the vehicle is rated for.

[THEPolishThunder]

@AspectOfTheRAGE

(example: MSPO 2007)

Poland mentioned 💪💪💪

[BasherBenDawg8]

@Smin1080p_WT

At the moment, as I said, there are no plans for a Rank III for the forseeable future. The focus will be on filling Isreals existing gaps within its current ranks.

Now I fully understand there’s no intent in the future for Israel to receive these ranks yet, but I do have another question semi-similar. I wouldn’t really like to know if it will happen, but rather if it could happen. Basically I’m asking: Would there be any technical limitations to prevent Israel from ever gettin Ranks III, II, or I? I understand that it would mean changes like the Tech Tree/Researchable M-51 getting its “Reserve” status removed, and depending on how low the Air tree could be expanded, the Sakeen as well. Would any of these factors prevent it from being possible, or does Israel actually have the possibility of getting Rank I-III, albeit likely in the far unforeseen future? Based on the other message I quoted below (the full message not the quote), it seemed you implied it as a possibility, but I’d love to hear concrete confirmation if possible.

@Smin1080p_WT

As I mentioned, its possible a Mosqutio may find its way in the future in some form. Perhaps not in the standard tree, or perhaps it will if ranks change. Just currently, it doesn’t fill a BR lineup gap and doesn’t have a good rank fit.

Hear me out, Israel technically has 4 Mosquito options, 2 for 3.7, and 2 for ~4.0. Should one or more find there way into the side section, as a premium/battlepass/event/squadron vehicle or what have it, are you able to see if the developers could please keep in mind the potential addition of Rank III in the future, so that at least least one Mosquito of each BR option available for the researchable section of the tree? Should Rank III actually become a thing in the future, the tree would heavily benefit from having them available. It would be quite sad if say both 3.7s got put behind that section and Israel missed out on a researchable 3.7 Mosquito for the tree, or vice versa for the 4.0s. I’m no dev, nor do I know what all they consider when it comes to adding vehicles (hey maybe they already consider factors like this, which would be great, but jut checking to be safe), but incase this isn’t already considered I’d love for it to be! Thanks for your time sir smin as always, really appreciate it!

[Smin1080p_WT]

Its not really a matter of technical limitations. More a great deal many other challenges and matters for consideration. But again, I would stress, as of right now, there are no plans to speak of currently for any close timeframe regarding Ranks I-III. The focus will be on filling out and expanding the current ranks Israel has.

[Deathmisser]

@Smin1080p_WT

The focus will be on filling out and expanding the current ranks Israel has.

So perhaps when Israel will finally get it’s subs then we can raise this case again sometime after ?

[ron_23]

why would they need sub trees

they can get atleast 1000 different M60 versions

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Deathmisser

So perhaps when Israel will finally get it’s subs then we can raise this case again sometime after ?

The case has already been raised. Suggestions for both air and ground have been passed. This topic however is not the place to raise the same subject over and over.

[Deathmisser]

Alright I get the message lol

[Smin1080p_WT]

Then you misread the message. Simply that spamming the RR topic as other already do about a subject(s), which you yourself have called out others for before, is not the way to go.

[BasherBenDawg8]

3000, one for every year since it was promised to them :)))

[Deathmisser]

To gaijin adding more nations to the game will get them more money from those areas though I have to say Chile and Singapore make more sense than Greece and Cyprus but hey I don’t think a war game has really focused on Cyprus that much iirc

[AydanL44_Hunter]

Don’t forget about all the missing Magachs

[joshje100]

Cyprus basically is just a mixing of Russian, French, Greek with some South African and Brazilian equipment sprinkled on top. Just a quick look through Wikipedia list there’s:

T-34’s with .50cals, Herrington Mk-IVF, M47, modded Valentine Mk-II, T-80U/UK, AMX-30, M48A5, EE-3, EE-9, EE-11, AMX-VCI, BMP-3, Leonidas-2, VAB VCAC, Mephisto, LAPV Enok with Spike LR2, Sherpa Light with Akeron MP, Land Rover with MILAN, TOR M-1, BUK.

For aircraft they have the H-145M and the Gazelle, and that’s it other than unarmed aircraft.

Probably since it’s Gaijin they will highlight 1/2 things we don’t already have in-game, model them incorrectly and fill the rest of the tree with C&P but with a different shade of green on the campflage.

(This was just a quick look no doubt someone will reply to this with a full article on what I’m wrong about so listen to them.)

My guess is that Cyprus is going to be a sub tree for ground and Greece for the air tree.

[Macron-Spokesman]

@Smin1080p_WT

Stay tuned for the next CM update where there will be some more hints on vehicles and coverage regarding features. But for now, there is still a little way to go.

I hope the next cm update includes air technology features that are coming to the game.

[UNN_Daedalos]

@Smin1080p_WT

Something quite long anticipated is expected. Though its too soon to go into details currently.

please be submarines
please be submarines

[ron_23]

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@Stona_WT

Could enemy submarines have secretly snuck into War Thunder?!

[Caernarvon02]

oh hey DirectSupport has made his name more accurate. neat

[Macron-Spokesman]

Someone alleged I was either Macron or Dassault’s spokesman, they caught me.

[KhorneFlakez1337]

It’s him!

It’s Jean Dassault!

[Caernarvon02]

i mean youre a bigger rafale glazer than i am a CVRT glazer and you’re not even french. the name is much more appropriate for your reputation.

Perhaps i should become Scimitar02 instead of Caernarvon, not even a fan of the caernarvon tank i just like the castle