And that’s exactly the point. Even Syria which actually had historical and political ties with France, didn’t get anywhere near the French tree.
So if that wasn’t enough to justify France, you really think Algeria, a country with awful relations with France since independence that literally fought a brutal war to get rid of them, is suddenly gonna be a French subtree? That makes even less sense.
exactly, they got removed, never said the player got refund or a new replacement
Syria is not a subtree, if a nation has no “home”, their vehicles go to the closest relevant tree.
In the case of the Syrian T-72 and Su-22 that’s the USSR tree
Other examples are the Czech vehicles in the USSR tree, the Polish vehicles in the US, British and German tree, the Spanish vehicles in the German and Italian tree, etc
That’s not related to a nation potentially becoming a subtree in the future. Nothing rules out Algeria becoming a French subtree at some point.
They weren’t removed.
Being unobtainable is not the same as being removed.
If you own these vehicles you can still use them, you wouldn’t be able to use them if they were removed.
i dont see anything french made in algeria.
Mate, if a nation becomes a subtree the origin of their vehicles doesn’t matter
i wont take it much further, just saying that algeria sub tree wont be thing and nver will.
you think otherwise ? the dev dont. and they know it its just copy slop.
Poland mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
Lol
Lmao even
I just realised we never got the passed to the devs for December. I wonder when we will see it.
Give the mods and devs a day to recover from new years eve bruh
You do realise they are also British mains who are purist as well same as any other player community but hey let’s demonize the Brits because it’s funny
there is good and bad in eveything.
that how life work.
I never said that it was but I’m using Syria to show how Gaijin decides the relevance. Even with real historical ties to France and no bloody independence war, Syria wasn’t even considered for the French tree because that’s not what determines placement.
Yes, and “closest relevant” has consistently meant equipment origin, doctrine, and military lineage, and not colonial history. That’s the entire point you’re not adressing.
Right and thats because the syrian military is mainly Soviet derived. Now apply that same rule to Algeria, whose army was deliberately built away from France and almost entirely around Soviet/Russian platforms (even before the algerian independence, Algerians were already training in the Soviet Union on vehicles from this country, also using their doctrine). France is again irrelevant here (unlike India which was trained, advised, and supplied before and after independence by the british army).
Eastern armies like Czechia, Slovakia etc were built around soviet equipment and doctrines.
Western NATO countries vehicles in other NATO nations trees still make sense though, as these armies have been built around the same doctrines and standards and got close cooperation with each other.
It is. A subtree is just multiple vehicles following the same relevance logic at scale. If the logic doesn’t work for individual vehicles it doesnt magically start working when you bundle them together…
Nothing rules it out only if we ignore every precedent Gaijin has set with the subtrees. In practice Algeria has no doctrinal, technological, political, or developmental continuity with France and a historically hostile relationship on top of that. Its the opposite of a foundation for a subtree.
Edit: That reply ended up longer than intended lol
Yeah but still the hate on British mains just really needs to stop now as it’s getting super old
same as the hate on so called bais russia need to stop.
we cant kill the bad, nor have only good, it is our faith to sort things like this, if we cant, why bother living.
It’s silly to think like that. It’s obvious that this will be for the development branch, especially since BVVD himself said that they would appear sooner or later and didn’t mention a world war
Again, if a nation isn’t part of a tree yet (or in other words, doesn’t have a home yet) their vehicles can go wherever Gaijin deems fit. Usually such vehicles end up in the tree of the exporter nation.
This has nothing to do with subtrees.
No, that’s because the T-72 and Su-22 are Soviet vehicles. If Gaijin added a Syrian operated SA 342L Gazelle, that one would most likely have ended up in the French tech tree.
A couple of randomly placed vehicles are not a subtree.
A subtree is a nation that Gaijin has decided to be tied to an existing nations tech tree.
When a nation becomes a subtree, all vehicles of that nation will be added to the host nations tech tree.
Syria, Poland, Spain, Turkey, Austria, Czechia, Argentina, heck even Australia, Canada and New Zealand aren’t subtrees. Gaijin hasn’t tied any of them to a specific tech tree, meaning their vehicles can still go to several tech trees.
What precedent?
Can someone explain to me how the SU-47 can be added but not the EAP?
I’m trying to think of a reason that has nothing to do with Russia, but I can’t come up with anything