Well the original poster I was replying to was talking about Czech vehicles with unique modifications. I assume those would mostly fall under 1 and 2 though of course the Czechs did develop the L-39 indigenously which would be most like the T-84 in this comparison. (I should note that if Gaijin ever added some kind of independent Czech tech tree or a Czech subtree, that Czech vehicles should be duplicated/added there from that point onward)
An example of a unique vehicle would be the Saudi Lightning that’s in the game. It’s different from the tech tree version of the Lightning, but we don’t need to say that GB gets a whole Saudi subtree just to have it.
There are also of course the “support nations” that are not technically subtrees but tend to show up alongside one nation-- Argentina is the best example of this. But that’s digressing.
My main point is that the USA and USSR don’t need subtrees because of the sheer volume of vehicles they have to draw on, but unique vehicles that don’t have a better place to go could and should go to those nations when applicable. Of course, I also believe Gaijin should work towards finding as many better places for vehicles as possible, whether that’s subtrees or independent nations.
If they are just T-Series tanks, then they’ll just go wherever makes sense, without a home for one of those said nations, that would be the soviets.
The issue is the other stuff imo.
Take India for Britain. Jaguar, Gnat, Hawk, Canberra, Sea Harrier etc etc. All fine, no issue, but a Sub-TT was not needed, as they are all export. But T-90, Mig-21, Rafale, Su-30, etc etc. Could only come as part of a Sub-TT and its those that are imo, controversial.
So Soviets getting variants of their own stuff is fine, can happen already, but the issue is does the soviet really need Czech Leoaprds and Gripens for example
It’ll be uninteresting until we get newer vehicles like the Object 195, Object 477 and Armata.
Maybe a small sub tree for Serbian vehicles at this point as Belarus doesn’t add anything new (no way someone finds something like the T-72BM2 new) except a few cars and maybe something like the 2T Stalker.
And ofc all the unique vehicles… dont forget those, even if the snail does ;)
I would say having a couple of the Middle East nations in the USSR tree wouldnt hurt too much pending which ofc, with a couple of export vehicles they used for unique bits of fun/filling a specific gap.
(I will always advocate a Yemeni Strikemaster for the USSR, I need my Strikemaster in all TTs! xD also have that potential historical fear of the Omani that caused them to buy Strikemaster themselves and have strikemaster duels!)
If the Su-35 comes to China, the J-10C would be practically pointless. Many players want the J-10C because it’s a domestically produced and unique Chinese aircraft with unique weaponry, and because it shot down some French batguettes. Leave the Su-35 for Russia to correct some of the problems still present in the Su-30SM. The J-10C is simply perfect for China, both as the first AESA radar and for new weaponry like the PL-15 (if the leak is correct). Then the Su-35 can come later.
The J-10C will be outright better than the Su-35 what are you on about??
The reason we are asking for it is variety in chinese air, aince gaijin seems very hesitant to add modern chinese flankers, so in the meantime we can get whatever the russians do alongside some domestic gap filling (J-10C) in order to give them time to model & find info about the J-15/16 so we don’t end up with another J-11A situation, where they just made up half the jet’s characteristics
Gaijin never denied a modern flanker to China; they got the J-11B along with the Su-30SM, becoming the second-best flanker in the game. Now, if you’re talking about the Su-30MKK, why do you want it so much? Obviously, Gaijin won’t add it to China now because they’re preparing something much better for China. China will probably still get a new SPAA. Saying that China hasn’t received anything recently is simply false. Let the J-10C come to China first, as it’s a national aircraft, and I believe Chinese players will be happy to see their jet first. And let the Su-35 come to Russia first to fill the gap. Then Gaijin will have plenty of time to give China the J-15/16, and obviously the Su-30MKK, which will obviously be added to a lot of nations next year and will become the Russian version of the F-18. As for the J-10C being better than the Su-35, well, I won’t give personal opinions, but Su-35 is much better they are quite equivalent since China based its strategy heavily on that. in Soviet and Russian technology
Su35 much better than j10c
Future In game:
For su35
Su-35 better missiles (pl12 vs r771) and more missiles, or roughly equal missiles (pl-15 vs r77m or r37m)
Vastly better radar
More counter measures
Better maws
Better top speed
J10c
Better flight performance for sustained dogfight (su35 funny tvc tho)
Better acceleration
And that’s about it
