There was a misunderstanding on the origin of the source which has since been clarified.
I would also like to remind everyone this is not a bug report discussion topic.
If you have an isuse with a report or need a review on something, you can contact any Tech Mod or myself. This topic is not the place.
damage control at its finest
and you’ve again conveniently ignored what i said in my sentence
I don’t care about whether something performs “better” or “worse”- I only care whether it performs exactly as it should or not.
It’s not about “buffs” or “nerfs”; it’s about accuracy.
Also, fixed M735 would have both better flat AND angled penetration. The old iteration was wrong, and so is this one; the correct one would be better in both aspects.
Anyway, changing subject to a more lighthearted one!
Thr marketing team at DIEHL were delighted by War Thunder’s IRIS-T loading screen art and asked if they could have a full resolution variant with War Thunder’s logo to display at their offices.
I love this, hahah. Do you know if thid was done?
And my point is that aside from the inaccuracy, which is a valid argument, people constantly complained about how the new M735 is “worse” than the old one when it is simply not true as they are just looking at the flat penetration values at hand.
MY POINT is that it is NOT a worse round that people constantly yapped about, so while people can continue to try and get the M735 fixed/buffed, I am here trying to dispel the misconception and misinformation spread by people who keeps harping that it’s a nerf, when it isn’t.
Or PR team are on the case.
Well- for composite modules, flat, and not angled penetration, is what counts. Do it may be slightly better against RHA plates, but worse against composite modules.
And it should be better in both aspects.
I hope an accord is reached! I think it would be amazing to have War Thunder art, logo included, at the offices of such a company.
It’s also very nice that they were open to clarify things about their weapons for a more accurate ingame depiction. That’s a blessing for big reporting, hahah.
They probably view having their product depicted in such a big game as a sort of indirect marketing, which is why they would not want it to be depicted as worse than it really is.
Absolutely incorrect, and I can use screenshots to prove this. Angled composite uses angled penetration values, not flat penetration values. It as simple as comparing 3BM15 vs 3BM22 against Leopard 2A4 UFP, and the protection analysis values will show that the 2A4’s UFP is more resilient against 3BM15 despite more flat pen than 3BM22.
It is on Gaijin that this kind of thing is misinformed and this misconception happens at all.
3BM15 vs Leopard 2A4 UFP
3BM22 vs Leopard 2A4 UFP
This is the difference between a short rod preset APFSDS (3BM15) and long rod preset APFSDS (3BM22), and there’s many more examples out there
They now dedicated a poor intern to grinding slm on company account, so they can test how it performs in game :p
By that standard none of the especially toptier rounds perform exactly as they should
As according to the formula, of course.
Most top tier rounds have the correct speed, diameter, mass, material, etc- so the formula makes a correct calculation and works as intended.
M735 is using wrong parameters for the formula, hence it has wrong values.
some toptier rounds are missing core features, best example is the DM53 anti era tip or incendiary unit
And it’s a perfectly fine thing to argue about when it comes to the right or wrong penetration values, my point goes back to misinformation based on Gaijin’s own lack of proper explanation between multiple types of APFSDS.
psst… report got updated again :D
Those are separate topics from the formula, factors which are not included on it.
It is a completely different topic not to have separate elements from the formula implemented and to have the formula wrongly applied with wrong values anyway.
M735 is wrong. M735 was reported and accepted. M735 has not been fixed in 2 years.
What’s even being discussed here anyway?
Hopefully it Evolves to an Full Collaboration with thr Desert skin which is shown in the Diehl Video (https://youtu.be/GBDmnKd8mBI?si=8u4nwbJYkyIvSNxs) ))))
Would be funny
Seems too many bug reporting managers…
3 individuals were needed to look at this.
