Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

I was thinking that was Noffie’s model when I saw that video. Quite a good model too, missing a lot of animations but for a free user model it’s pretty good.

Looks good for screenshots anyway







It’s quite impressive actually the quality of some of the user models that people have made.

Stuff like the B2 again by Noffie and the F-22 by Avarik look incredible

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like… why cant we just get the other nations on par with the big ones first and then continue the advancements in technology?
The game only gets more and more inbalanced due to the lack of additions to minor nations - most minor nations are lacking 200+ vehicles behind the main four. This creates BR inbalances and bad gameplay experiences overall.
And don’t say: “not all nations produced such vehicles”… Then add vehicles from other nations to it… Like Argentina, Romania, Iran, Irak, Zimbabwe, etc… are doing to the already excisting nations.

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Seriously? The MLU 2 hornet is outright better than the US late hornet and the F-15I is outright better than the E. The Swiss premium hornet is also a major upgrade from the C early at the same BR

If some smaller trees got subtrees/more subtrees they would lose their identity

And the F-15E is still stronger than the top tier options for Japan, China, Sweden and the F-15E is in a healthier state than the Typhoons.

The fact the US does have 2x 14.0s and 2x nations dont have even 1 yet does pretty clearly show that the nations that should get top tier additions next major are China, Japan and Sweden. Unfortunately, I have no idea what Japan could get. But Gripen E and J-10C would make for good additions next major.

US could quite comfortably go without anything for top tier air for several more updates. Afterall, in a single update they did get 3x new aircraft and several nations have so far only gotten 1 this year. Multiple of those nations being exclusively premiums (Italy, Britain and Israel)

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Isn’t typhoon still better?

US air should get more additions since it has so much more to offer, not strictly being necessary doesn’t mean stuff shouldn’t be added. If they were to add Gripen E and J-10C then a US counterpart would be needed

Weaker radar, less ARH missiles, less CMs, weaker A2G

The only thing that its better at is dogfighting, the one place you dont want to be using the Typhoon at the moment because you’ll get slapped by the Su-30SMs and Rafales as they have vastly superior missiles.

Not how it should work, and quite frankly. UK and France have just as many potential additions.

Looks at the other 9 trees in game and all the stuff that has never been added.

Already in game, its called the F-15E.

or the other way of putting it. What does Japan, China and Sweden have to counter the F-15E?

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2 less and can’t you bring IR’s in their place. If you only highlight the weaknesses of course it’s going to look worse

France and UK can get their additions, but still I’m pretty sure the US is going to have more left than either.

The “look at all the stuff that hasn’t been added” is just as accurate if not more so for the US

F-15E cold war brick-like strike jet with big engines and missiles, a Cold War vintage radar, vs 2 modern fighter airframes with AESA radars

So jsut because US built loads IRL, the other 9 nations are not allowed to get anything?

and also why does the US ALWAYS have to be the meta. Its quite nice that they arent just steamrolling every single match like they did when the F-14, F-15C and F-15E were added.

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That’s not what I said

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and what started this was stating that the US does not need anything else at the moment. We have multiple nations that have absolutely nothing for 14.0.

But apparently for either nation to get something, the US also needs to get better than what they already have. Which is? What? F-22?

So the US needs the F-22 to fight Gripen Es and J-10Cs?

What next? US needs Aim-260 and Block 3 Aim-9X?

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Holy strawman

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What? You are the one arguing that the US needs something STRONGER than the F-15E to counter the best options for 14.0 aircraft for 2x nations that need said additions to counter the F-15E

What do you want added then?

probably one of the F15 programs, knowing US mains probably the EX because 20 AMRAAMs are balances surely

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Everything with a screw made in Pennsylvania

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20 AMRAAM hasn’t been cleared or really tested to my knowledge, it was a capability that Boeing had available for the EX but USAF didn’t see a need to clear and officially test it. Currently 12 AMRAAMS is the maximum.

An F-15C with AESA and BOL would mostly just add some more variety, but an F-15SA would be a solid counterpart to Rafale F3R, Gripen E, and J-10C

F-16V. problem solved
Neither should be added for a while either way but that is the “4.5” eq

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Having played both. Typhoon is better/more fun in air RB but the F-15E is better/more fun in ground RB.

F-15I is slightly better in air RB, F-15E is considerably better in ground RB.

Same way the Finnish Hornet is considerably better in air RB while the US Hornet is considerably better in ground RB.

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I’m talking about ARB.

What’s the big difference in GRB for 15I? The TGP?

I wonder what excuse gaijin will give next patch when the UK doesn’t get the CAMM or ends up with some indian or SA SPAA

“CAMM is too good right now and it would be unfair to add”