Which is what im suggesting.
Im personally guessing Gen 5 IR for everyone either later this year (like december) or sometime early-mid next year.
PL-12 is ok but what makes the J-10A good is pretty much voided in the C.
It’s heavier has a lower top speed and is less maneuverable in return, so it shifts more towards a BVR role in which it can’t compete in with the current PL-12 against other contenders like the F-15E, Rafale, EF and SU-30
If they fixed the PL-12 which is currently modeled after the old SD-10 it would probably be a worth while addition.
while I’d love to see the J-10C in game since it’s my favorite single engine jet im not optimistic about its performance unless it gets the PL-15 or the PL-15E with range comparable to the Fakour-90
Heres hoping Grippen E for Japan (Thailand) and Sweden, both tree’s been needing something to be top BR
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Trying to compare PL-15E to F-90 seems kinda dishonest. It would still be a major upgrade over every single other ARH currently in game as it would outrange C5s by 50% and have an AESA seeker
That’s why I said range.
I’m not compared the two in any other aspect than range ~150km for both
And this would be the only usable factor for the 10C in top tier, it’ll be out BVR’d by practically any twin engine contender and most eurocanards will out dogfight it
The J-10A has an empty twr of 1.5
The J-10C with the AL-31 has a twr of 1.4
And if given the WS-10B it’s still only 1.5
so the only upgrade would be the radar
Sadly the Thai Gripen E don’t exist yet, so we don’t really know how they’d be equipped.
I’d say the best bet for Japan is to get the Indonesian Rafale F.4 alongside the French getting their Rafale F.4
We might still have to wait a bit before late Rafales are added, but at least it’s probably sooner than the Thai Gripen E in 2029
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Sorry but the French don’t need a new Rafale. It’s already the best performing top tier by a LARGE margin
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Yeah, like I said it will take a while before we get Rafale F4 in game, but I still think we will get it before 2029 considering we have 5th gen aircraft rumored to be added sometime next year already.
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Poland brings less to the table than Yugo/post Yugo to the able to be a main nation in that case you funny funny guy.
Hell Yuga brings more than Sweden or Israel, evne when those become fully realized
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NGL, if we ever get infantry ever like some of the leakers say, Type 60 ATM would finally be remotely useful and able to kill something because .50cal go brrr
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Rafale f4.1 will change nothing for air compared to f3.r only starting f4.2 and .3 that there will be meaningful change for the game.
Do you have an updated proposed Yugo TT?
Because their Air TT on the forums is just mostly C&P with some unique things. Its mostly different names, E.G. China with the J-2, J-7 etc…
Ground does have some nice things to offer. But mostly at top tier.
Their naval is also VERY lackluster.
I would see them as a sub-TT for Poland-Eastern Europe TT at best… I do hope for you that it will become independend, but i dont think that will happen.
BeNeLux, ASEAN, LATAM and Korea TT are waaay better options IMHO. Especially if i look on the suggestion that has been made on the TT.
Isn’t LATAM’s only top tier vehicle the Centauro for ground?
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Yeah, and a Modified 2A4.
But everything else is decent loaded of content.
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The one from Chile? On their tech tree its only 11.3.
Does have some interesting content but I believe Eastern Europe does have more to offer
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Their sub-tree got done really dirty, same with all the other ones
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First, sadly not. Afaik that proposal is in hiatus.
Second, that’s rich. VERY. It’s got as much unique stuff as Poland, probably more in terms of attackers/ armed trainers. Let’s be real though, the CZSK folks were the real innovators.
Absolutely untrue. They’ve unique stuff spanning all the way. Again, the proposals don’t tell the true picture.
Noone cares about naval btw. Poland didn’t have any BBs themselves either.
I still cannot agree with that. Yugoslavia liberated itself, had a neutral relationship with east / west during the cold war, even led and brought up a neutral union of countries.
And one thing, we’re definitely NOT eastern europeans.
Those are all mighty fine suggestions yes, which I fully support.
I am talking about a one nation ( yuga was close enough but not quite), full fledged tree across all BRs.
And while I may be very patriotic, I do believe not having Yuga as a standalone tree is a great mistake.
Though, I do see PL+CZSK being a huge thing as well, let’s not do that one dirty. Just keep Yugo away from it
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Yeah they were the lucky ones, after we revealed the TS-16 Grot everything went downhill.
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Well, i hope for you.
But seeing Benelux as a sub-TT makes me doubt it.
Especially since they have a Huge navy and lots of modern equipment for the future; like stealth, submarines, attack drones, scouting and WWI.
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