Just looks like a classic case of compression to me.
Cannot go down because its stomps on things like the ADATS. But shouldnt be the same BR as the IRIS-T SLM and Pantsir.
Same for the VT-4 vs T-72 debate. I think we can all agree that half of the tanks currently at 12.0 shouldnt be at the same BR as the other half of the 12.0s. Perhaps shouldnt even be within 0.3 BR sight of more than a few
I’ve played it a good bit since launch.
The missile is bad, Only people that get hit are either clueless or premium timmies or the occasional helicopter, but usually the missile chooses flares instead.
The gun is is very fun for shooting down incoming munitions, I wish there was a stat tracking how many you’ve shot down, it’d be a lot…
Search radar is bad but the tracking radar is excellent.
Atm you’re incapable of hitting any jets >6km because yhe tracking logic with DL+IOG will prevent the missile from actually acquiring a lock with the IR seeker
And then there’s the part where a 18km missile can barely fly 10km before starting to falling out of the sky
well, pantsir’s 95ya6 is no match of SLM. it only advantage is speed and non-warning lock, the non-warning is now almost gone, and speed is hard to behave without mobility
maybe you should change your tactic, though I can’t tell the details before I finish research it and try myself. but I believe my friend’s word, it’s about choose a good position with your mobility and let the enemy get closer. most will afraid of SLM and will try close attack
and it still outperforms pretty much every other SAM except for the SLM from what Ive seen and read.
I’ve done that a while back, as I showed my stats are ok’ish in it.
If you play it as a 18km SPAA as it should be you’re going to have a miserable time. You have to play it as a glorified MANPADS carrier with a bit of extra energy.
Only parts that’s “good” about the missile is the aggressive loft allowing to hit very low flying targets behind cover
you can avoid being hit by 95ya6 as long as you know it’s coming and has enough energy, in most of the range. while for other missiles with more mobility, there is always a dead zone where you can’t get away by just pulling hard
it’s like this
and same for most of the new spaa except SLM
though FB-10A is more extreme. it’s rocket is really powerful for it’s size, but the speed limit waste much energy and the drag makes it dies quickly.
The pantsir missile is silly easy to dodge if you know it’s coming. Just dive and roll and it’ll wobble like mad
I have played with the rafale a bit to test out how CAS performs in the new SLM META, and I would say the CS/SA5 is a pretty good SPAA overall, but definitely not ground breaking. Still no match compared to the SLM, but it’s about as dangerous to fight as a pantsir. While the pantsir has the range advantage and much faster missiles, the FB10A is pretty strong up to 10-12km, and is fire and forget and also has a much better guidance than the Pantsir missile (you can easily wobble their missiles by rolling and evade that way). It’s also surprisingly flare resistant imo, I mostly evade them kinematically. It is still a complete struggle against things like KH38MT AASM IR and other FnF weapons tho, so it’s definitely not ground breaking
Honestly I would just place them like this in their current state:
Not too sure about the tan sam, either stay at 12.0 or move to 11.7. Still conflicted.
Spyder really as bad as the ADATS?
5km too much. it’ll fall out of the sky tracking a jet at that distance
It’s at best a sidegrade from the HQ-17 not 12.0 material
It is quite sad. Python loses 80% of energy to wobbling, derby does too, but to something, no one knows to what. Radar is doing radar things. Can’t launch using optics. Basically anything can overpressure it if you hit the radar.
Having suffered 17 games in it, I actually prefer my adats over the spyder:
Also add that the points Devil made.
EDIT: the adats also isn’t without it’s flaws of course, but at least you can play around them or take them into account. The spyder feels like a giant rng machine and there is nothing you can do except hope that you get lucky.
Fair enough
definetly better than any fake stuff now adays
Still looking foward to this aircraft (F-CK-1) for the ROC tech tree… and What do you guys think about it? like the BR espically…
It’s an interesting aircraft but it’s weak engines and quite poor armaments would probably put it under the current F-16
Please be sure to use the wishlist thread: Next patch and beyond wishlist(Everything except Tech Trees) (Part 2) - #3578 by NOR_Tissetassen
This is the rumor roundup.
so when we gonna see some real german SPAA that arent fake at 5.7-6.0
cause ostwind 2 and zestorer 45 are flat out fake on guns made for zestorer
mind you the removed FLAK 341 was more real than both of these as guns and hull did exist
but where removed because not real but doesnt add up with these 2
btw if any of this sounds mean or pushy its not meant to be :D i just dont get gaijins descisions here as they make little sense all i wanna know is the why
thanks for reading sry if i misspelled anything
Ye I know however I am making rumor about it not making a wishlist until people really want it.
