M8 I’ve seen at least 3 or 4 people ask already in this thread
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Yeah after searching a bit I see them all. I’m disappointed but also don’t know what I expected. SMH lol.
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Oh it happens every time another nation get’s a slightly competent aircraft and they throw the dummy out the pram for more. So far I’ve seen them ask for 15 F-15’s, F-14D and the F-22 why because the game must reflect their status in irl and the American ego’ism
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When all britain had to fight F-16s was the Tornado (and it was WAY weaker than what we have now), we were told “no you cant have the Typhoon until we get the F-15C MSIP II”
Then when that was added it became the F-15E
Then it became the F-18E Superhornet or F-22.
What I would have paid to see their faces when the Typhoon did actually come.
Though im still looking forward to the Typhoon being un-nerfed. Still has a placeholder radar, underperforming FM, loads of missing features, loads of missing loadout options, etc.
Should be fun when if/when it gets added
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There’s more than enough aircraft in rank 8 in the US. Now where’s my f-102 and f-106. And i also want my hawks in the UK >:(
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Yep
- Add the Hawk
- Finish the SHars
- Fix the Typhoon
- If fuel dumping wasnt coming id say add a new “fun” mechanic like fuel dumping, or GMR, or CBUs or something, would be fun on a fair few aircraft
and then id be happy for this major update for Britain air.
Then just need ASB overhaul and fingers crossed Falklands map will be EC and wont be the size of a postage stamp
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Britain didn’t have anything else to add lmao. Obviously the Typhoon was to early to add (and honestly even them adding it in December was a bit early obviously). The F-15E coming to the game was unprecedented and shouldn’t have been a thing. Same with the Rafale.
That can’t be blamed on Gaijin or US mains. Blame Brits for not fielding any good 4th gens until the Typhoon. I’m in on the fight for every plane getting their realistic capabilities, so I hope the EFT gets unnerfed.
I agree on the F-15s and F-22 but obviously as a Tomcat advocate I think the F-14D would have a good place at toptier right now. Maybe wait a little longer since it’s basically a sidegrade to the F-15E, but it’s not as crazy as adding the F-15EX or QA and certianly not on the same lvl as the F-22A.
Not entirely true (even the Harrier GR9A would have been better than the nothing we got), but wont get into that, but the Tornado F3 was added in such a poor state that with the current BRs it would have been a weak 11.3. It was woeful. If we had gotten the F3 we have today, it wouldnt have been too bad and even now its underperforming loads.
Full strength Tornado F3 vs F-16 and Mig-29 (without the Stupidly OP R-27ERs) would have had at least half a chance, instead it was DOA.
There was nothing else to add though. F-15C was dominating the Typhoon and Rafale was the only reasonable addition to counter it. Maybe if the F-15C also hadnt been added and instead they got… well to be honest, nothing because they had the F-16C or if something new was needed then a slightly later model of the F-16. Then the Typhoon and Rafale could have been delayed. Tornado F3 Late, ICE, Mirage 2K and F-16 vs F-16 would have been fine. But none stand much chance against the F-15C.
What we were fielding was the Tornado F3 with ASRAAM and AMRAAMs. We still dont have that loadout because it would be too OP. Remember ASRAAM entered service 10+ years before the US got an “equal” A2A missile and even then its still weaker.
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I did say like 10 posts below that one that I was joking.
But no, the Eurofighter doesn’t exist for me until I unlock it. Until then there’s this weird empty icon at the end of three tech trees. And strangely I occasionally get killed by magically appearing AIM-120s with no launch aircraft.
Dont rush,
Its radar doesnt work which makes it very weak.
Still waiting very very patiently for the other century fighters… we need the F101, F102, F106, and F107 (maybe event or prem)… there are no reasons left these planes cannot/should not be added and weren’t added in the past couple years. All could carry guns/gunpod and the AIM-4F/G is fine. +1 I agree it is also time for F14D
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If the Su-27 experience is anything to go off of (still has a bugged FM, albeit better, and the AoA limiter button makes this somewhat negligible now), you still have about a year of suffering left to do.
Definitely sucks.
I agree, but as you said, the tornado in it’s best state wouldn’t have good odds against the F-16 and MiG-29. It was basically an upgraded phantom. To this day I think the best way to integrate AMRAAM would be to add them in limited quantity on the trash airframes (F-4F ICE, Tornados, Harriers, F-20/Bison to limit their effectiveness and also iron out the kinks they have before release. In typical Gaijin fashion, this was not the case and the borderline ruined the game. Before this era, it unfortunately was just tough luck for Britain.
This is true. The only plausible thing Britain could’ve gotten would be the BAC P.110 variants. Of course, they didn’t pursue them though, so they couldn’t be added. Overall it all roots down to Gaijin adding capability the game can’t handle. We needed different gamemodes for planes like the tornado to be more viable.
Yes, however the platform those weapons where mounted on wasn’t great. The main reason why US can be so dominate is because of the pure quantity of vehicles they make for every niche. Adversary has great AoA fighter jets? Hornet. Super fast interceptor? The Tomcat has been there before they were a blueprint. An AA covered deathtrap? An F-16 can outpull the missiles with bombs attached. Need that all in one package? The F-15 is probably best bang for buck. US just has too much stuff. The Cold War did a lot for our military.
I do think the ASRAAM + AMRAAM loadout will be added, but at that time, it just wasn’t feasible to add. There are too many crybabies in the game. But yes I agree with you that in the direction the game was going, Britain needed the EFT. It’s just that the whole of the game got worse because of it. It was just too much powercreep. This era we are in now needs to be a brick wall in capability until they fix the game, because we’ve already smashed through the last 2.
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As was the Su-34. The Su-30M (no, not SM) would’ve been fine, could’ve done the Su-30MKK for China at the same time too.
Again, not entirely additions like the Harrier GR9A would have been better than the nothing we got. Harrier Gr7 can quite happily fight F-16s, so now imagine a Harrier Gr7 with a better engine, more weapons and a HMS.
We have ASB, but Gaijin increased the BR of the Tornado F3 in ASB so that it was perma-uptiered even though if anything it was weaker in ASB than it was in ARB.
They dont have a counter for the Typhoon in WVR though.
They never built a Delta-Canard Fighter.
Of course not and it shouldnt have been. But would Tornado F3 with Aim-9M and Skyflash SuperTEMPS + properly modeled BOL + all the other issues the F3 had and still has being fixed vs F-16/Mig-29 (especially when they got IRCCM) been asking for too much?
Let alone just making Britain the king of Mud moving by actually making the Tornado Gr1 good (its still artificially nerfed to be the weakest for “reasons”) and other additions like the Hawk, Jaguar GR3A, Harrier GR9A, etc.
Even the Tornado Gr4 and Buc S2B could have come much much earlier than they actually did. (ive been having a blast playing the Tornado Gr4 even in ARB at the moment, even in uptiers, that would have been excellent fun to get 2 years ago.)
The Biggest issue in that year wasn’t necessarily that Britain didnt have a top tier fighter. It was that we got basically nothing. The aircraft we did get were a buggy mess and then we had 3 updates straight with nothing at all.
It’s quite insane that we’re a few weeks away from Devblog and we’re still on the first thread.
People are apparently much calmer these days.
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I look forward to the CV-90 FRES though it’s basically guaranteed to be an event. AJAX as shockingly poor as it is, will simply be a downgrade over the CV9040 in all but the gun. CV-90 FRES however would be on-par/better.
Unfortunately gaijin will add the in service waste of funding as its in service, but FRES makes a great event vehicle. Both fulfill the same purpose at the same br, but FRES is better both irl and in-game.
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Wasn’t it like the 3rd one last update? It’s crazy.
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