True, but I can’t see them just adding a bettter IR missile to one nation only, especially with better ARH missiles
Yea, I’m strictly speaking on aircraft
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I’d expect the first Typhoons to get them to be Tranche 3s so the current ones can stay where they are and not enlarge the already big gap between the F-4F ICE/MiG-29G and Typhoon.
The problem with that is the seeker. If flight performance was an issue, the R-73 and MICA EM wouldn’t be in game.
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I doubt the Eurofighter will stay where it currently is – especially since it is explicitly a Block 10 (ie. AIM-120C-5 + IRIS-T compatibility). It sincerely deserves to go up alongside the Rafale, we’re just waiting for better competition and newer missiles to be added.
The next new Eurofighter model to get added will probably have an AESA radar and much later missiles than the 120C-5.
Considering how much tech there is between what the ones in game have and the latest Typhoons, I very much doubt it. I’d be very surprised if there are fewer than at least three per nation by the time we get to T4s.
It has to come at some point and the 9X/R-74M are the less egregious of the other IIR missiles.
They gave the Su-30SM a brand new long range/do everything missile in the 77-1 while not giving it to the superior flight performance Su-27SM.
9X wont have a 20km lock on range it will still in game act like all the other IIR missiles be used at 3km
The AIM-9X bl 1, R-73M/74, and Python 4 coming, alongside missiles already in game like the AAM-3, Magic II, and PL-8B getting buffed to be closer to their real performances, is definitely something that should happen soon at least.
Rafale cooks Typhoon because they have the one down from the actual F.4
Typhoon in game is Tranche 2…
If they add a new Typhoon Tranche 3/4 with AESA, improved PIRATE a fully modeled DAS
and an accurate fm then yep put that sucker up to 16.0 and let it fight F-22s.
And because the CAPTOR-M is worse than the Blue Vixen in game.
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Just sucks for the Aim9M guys who cannot have their best missile as it would be “game breaking”
It’s true I find the Radar in the Su-33 better than Typhoon I can actually lock what I want and while it doesnt have “TWS+” and a lower detection range. It will reliably hold a lock and not force me to cycle modes before the Radar acknowledges the target infront of me.
I’ve had more success with the MiG-23MLA’s radar.
Russian players wont believe it though as the N001 Radar is the worst Radar in the known universe to them
While it’s not amazing, the N001 is in my experience a perfectly usable radar.
I don’t see how withholding AIM-120C-5s would help with this… We’d basically be facilitating compression at this point by keeping such a good FM limited by its weapons.
Giving the Eurofighter AIM-120C-5s would give it more standoff range against the MICA, even if Gaijin does ungimp the MICA. Not to mention giving the Eurofighter access to the IRIS-T allows it to compete at very close ranges, which is something it severely lacks.
I’d argue we don’t need a whole new Eurofighter for that, especially when this variant has much better flight performance relative to anything that isn’t a Eurocanard and Gaijin can simply tack on radar fixes on top of giving it new missiles.
but the Aim9X is way stronger than previous Aim9s innit? After all the French didn’t get the Mica IR for similar reasons
I agree with you
I dont see a world were Gaijin does though, to them the Typhoon is in a great place and requires no additions or buffs.
120C and IRIS-T would make the Typhoon a monster imagine having an IR missile that works!
It can turn tighter and has a new seeker with improved IRCCM
the 9M in game is already largely underperforming.
MICA IR/IRIS-T are a different level ASRAAM slightly below those 2
Gaijin would have to model spectral flares which would make top tier jets near immune to none IIR missiles like 9Ms and R-73s
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Not if everyone gets their equivalent missiles.
It also heavily depends on what Gaijin chooses to do with their IRCCM. If they model them correctly and actually give them an imaging IR seeker, we could be in serious trouble.
However, if Gaijin does not add IIR to AAMs, they could simply limit IRCCM to Gate-Width and Suspended Tracking (like the Stinger) for all next-gen IR missiles. That would be much more balanced, at least until they update CMs to be more effective.
Typhoons major weakness is the Radar
and it’s 9M
and that it doesnt bleed speed so you normally merge too fast and die.
If Typhoon was to receive IRIS-T I would carry 6 of them and 4 120s.
Countermeasure overhaul has to happen or these systems will not perform anywhere near what they should. I can already see a 15km ASRAAM shot being single flared by a Su-35