Which is precisely what I mean.
I too doubt we’ll ever truly see “IIR” modeled in game, but rather IRCCM+ but exactly what that will look like is a total unknown and so I think a lot of people are fearing the Gen 5s because they reckon they will be unflarable monsters, but Im personally reckoning they’ll only be stronger than the current IRCCM we have within about 5km.
well considering we are seeing a Chinese and German spaas I would class both of those being in the manageable category :/
Yeah same.
So far Im guessing Germany, Sweden and Soviets. So thats 3/5 of the managable and none of the un-managable ones
%100 they are not gonna go or past from a dual IRCCM tweaking a little bit the missile codes to make them more viable for the game am %100 sure that they would do this.
Oh i must have missed that part
Yeah, I largely agree. I can also see them all having a near identical seeker much like ARH missiles do for further balance.
But so long as they dont screw up the kinematic performance of the missiles (and for the ASRAAM and MICA IR the lock ranges), then that is fine
Considering sweden lacks competent CAP and the ITO is only good for destroying CAS planes piloted by Fungi and helicopters with below room temp IQ i wouldn’t call it manageable. In reality SPAA is essentially useless anyways with Fighters being the only viable form to deal with CAS if you aren’t using the meta fighters for CAP/CAS you are not in the top bracket for being competitive.
I fully expect the UK to go with out an upgrade as the CAMM is not used by everyone else and gaijin seems to rarely give the UK a top tier thing that they need and is also good that no one else can get
Gaijin will give it 5km front aspect lock range, a 3km upgrade from the Aim9M
Id still consider the Gripen C as usable as CAP (certainly more usable than say Tornado F3 vs Mig-29s we have at 11.7 for example)
But purely looking at SPAA, ITO is miles ahead of the ADATSs, Imp, Type 81 and Otomatic
Yeah… probably
There will of course be aircraft too, including a rather cool helicopter for the USA and a jet for Japan.
Just went and copied it lol
the ITO even if SPAA is kinda meh is still the second best or 3rd best SPAA in the game I dont think sweden should be the focus if there are a limited number of SPAAs coming
I don’t consider the ITO or any SPAA aside from the Pantsir as usable. I dont bother with SPAA anymore for my lineups because they are just inferior to the CAS we have. Adats is the only vehicle i still use because i can use it as a US BMP-2M when it comes to haveing 8 ready to use AT missiles.
yea they totally could use the same seeker for every new 5gen IR missile changing some numbers there and there to make them perform a little bit different from each other talking about speed, accel, drag you know…
Spectral flares would be the counter.
Dont expect them to function anywhere near realistic
the ranking is like this from worst to best
Flakrad, TOR, Adats, ITO---------------------Panstir
I’m gonna be real i haven’t touched SPAA outside of my Adats (for AT purposes) for ground because they just aren’t viable for the most part. Why bring a worthless SL piñata when i can get another fighter which has a greater chance to hurt my enemy, especially FnF helicopters are yet another problem for SPAA.
LMAO putting the ADATS above TOR and Flakrad is a joke the ADATS is the worst SACLOS SPAA at top tier the only thing it has is the ability to kill tanks
Adats is good