As Sky-sabre is not IIR but rather DL+Radar it could come whenever and be balanced, and various missile types would be availible currently CAMM (up to 60km) and CAMM-ER (said to be 45 but CAMM base is said to be 25 so…) but in the future the ABM capable CAMM-MR is also being certified on sky sabre to finally give the UK an ABM capability outside of the Type 45’s (which themselves are not actually ABM certified everybody just knows that they were capable of it and it wasn’t done for cost reasons).
The UK-Brazilian MV-AMA missile will also be compatible though I don’t expect a UK buy or test firing as CAMM-ER is better.
Unfortunately (yes I think its unfortunate) this is only the rule for suggestions however the devs have said on more than one occasion that straight up paper ships with completed plans could feature and also A-150 has had guns built for it so becomes valid as a suggestion.
Yeah, but its gunna be a great insight in how they plan to model IIR. As imo, ASRAAM and IRIS-T could come for aircraft very soon if the seekers were nerfed heavily for “gameplay reasons” and if IRIS-T is coming for a ground unit (and is a perfect test bed for tuning) then it does mean we could see ASRAAM slinging Typhoons before the year is out
guys am gonna be honest with you IIR its practically impossible to recreate it in game and the only thing it would cause if somehow they manage too get a way of doing that it would cause a lot of troubles the missiles would be totally undogeable, unflarable, etc even with jamming systems you would get obliterated specially in close quarters, what i was thinking and we were talking in the snailmine ds server with general lee is that they most likely gonna add the 5Gen IRs with Seeker shutoff + FOV Shrink IRCCM simulating a dualwaveband multielement seeker for everybody and everymissile added from now on this is the most healthy decision when we talk about this missiles its a step further and advancement but not at a point that it would cause a completly chaos soo this is the most safe decision to maintain a healthy environment in top tier bringing something new to the table that everybody would have.
next gen missiles arent invincible as people say. Sure they have insane IRCCM but there is always terrain, range, kinematic performance that will limit these missiles.
I too doubt we’ll ever truly see “IIR” modeled in game, but rather IRCCM+ but exactly what that will look like is a total unknown and so I think a lot of people are fearing the Gen 5s because they reckon they will be unflarable monsters, but Im personally reckoning they’ll only be stronger than the current IRCCM we have within about 5km.
%100 they are not gonna go or past from a dual IRCCM tweaking a little bit the missile codes to make them more viable for the game am %100 sure that they would do this.
Considering sweden lacks competent CAP and the ITO is only good for destroying CAS planes piloted by Fungi and helicopters with below room temp IQ i wouldn’t call it manageable. In reality SPAA is essentially useless anyways with Fighters being the only viable form to deal with CAS if you aren’t using the meta fighters for CAP/CAS you are not in the top bracket for being competitive.
I fully expect the UK to go with out an upgrade as the CAMM is not used by everyone else and gaijin seems to rarely give the UK a top tier thing that they need and is also good that no one else can get