Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

I do enjoy grinding, but you know what I enjoy even more? Not having the BRs compressed to the point they could cause a supernova.
More variants with lesser differences = more possible BR steps = better progression and more balanced matchmaking

Agreed. Ground has kinda been neglected, relative to air, for a while now, though I’m honestly quite happy with what Gaijin has been doing with it lately, copy paste aside. They’ve been implementing a lot more AA vehicles, with a lot being passed to the developers. T77E1 was a great addition, as many never bothered with the Dusters as the 40mms are a bit of a pain to use, and from what it sounds like, they are preparing to add in long range SAMs into the game, and if they add in AI infantry as well, similar to what was shown in the trailer and the event? CAS may actually become balanced, or at least much better than it was before.

Honestly, while I do have my issues with Gaijin, I’m actually somewhat optimistic for the game’s future. There is the aforementioned AA implementations and possibilities, but it also seems like Gaijin is slowing down with additions that really push BRs forward, as well as the implementation of new nations, instead filling out gaps in tech trees (as well as in general).

There’s also the recent WW1 event, which was great. It wasn’t a grindy event, the rewards were good, and the features it was testing are things I am genuinely looking forward to. Especially as it seems like Gaijin isn’t tagging them as event vehicles, which suggests that they are considering implementing WW1 and the early interwar period sometime in the future. Obviously, that is exciting for the prospect of seeing more of the cool prototypes and early designs from the period, but also suggests that Gaijin is making actual alterations to the techtrees, which they haven’t done since the implemented BRs, which can mean seeing anything from seeing the number of lines a nation can have expand, splitting up WW2 and Cold War+ vehicles (rough example) from each other, to overhauling how subtrees work. Would certainly be in line with the leaks of a potential subtree for the US.

Do hope they make the trees thicker instead of pushing them forward, however. There’s quite a few prototypes and production vehicles that can be added that would be good vehicles to ‘center’ an update around, such as up-gunned Abrams prototypes, the aforementioned SAMs, and a few more ‘traditional’ AA platforms that include CiWs mounted onto trucks. And that’s what I can think of off the top of my head. There’s probably quite a few I don’t know about that could be added, but, point is, we can probably delay a new tier for some time.

Interesting, I think I can see them doing this if they implement Infantry, assuming they don’t decide to just merge Enlisted into War Thunder.

It’s one thing to grind out a bunch of different guns in a WT system, which can make it feel tedious, it’s another to grind out full on squads, even if the difference is mostly in presentation.

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Ah yes after backlash but you didn’t plan on making them on par until after we had to ask so dont try to play this as gaijin being kind when the original goal was to screw sweden over which has been their plan for a while given the state of the Gripen A, C and the newest dumpster fire the F-18C because gaijin wants to skip the MLU 1 because it would devalue the US model. The F-18C was added so gaijin didn’t have to fix the lack of a good top tier fighter on sweden and could ignore their air tree for another year.

My biggest gripe is that the JAS39C for sweden is basically everything the A should be minus the SBDs and the general A-historic secondaries which makes everything 5 million times harder to report and deal with

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Ok i read that and immediately imagined a gripen carrying dauntless dive bombers

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Smin does Gaijin have any plan to change their naming scheme for Aircraft. The “early” “late” designations are showing their flaws.

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Gaijin trying their hardest to make a Gripen C which isnt just the A model challenge impossible

Since the discussion is off-topic, I will try to avoid fueling it further; but this is why I spiraled so hard into it.

I don’t understand some sections of the community sometimes.

If more of the early variants of a plane are added beforehand and progressively, they are deemed to be redundant, “speed bumps”, “nerfs”, “Gaijin hating X nation”, etc, under demands and claims that “better variants should have been introduced right away instead”…

But if Gaijin does indeed skip the earlier variants and goes right away for a more capable variant, if ever so slightly, suddenly now THAT is a problem too because “they are skipping potential additions they could have added to enrich the trees”…?

So what now? What do we want? Trees with 5 identical variants of each vehicle, or trees that progress through gameplay-relevant upgrades? In both cases, apparently everything is about criticising Gaijin… and I’m someone who does that quite a lot; it’s just that I can’t see a reason to do it in this instance.

Its even got the countermeasures the A should have, it is a more accurate A than the A

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It’s almost like different people have different opinions or something

Doesn’t really matter tho, because they are getting close to the point where they have to add these “redundant” variants to pad out the updates.

Its been evident gaijin has no interest in a historical Gripen ever since it was added. Probably because they couldn’t care less about their airtree

Don’t forget that they also gave the Hungarian Gripen AGM 65Hs when neither the SAAF C or the Swedish A got them

Nothing 10.3 up matches its designation lol
I think the first one to do so in a while is the finnish hornet

Meaningful difference ah yes 1 modification, worth 400k rp for the same plane

Sweden doesnt use them?

They gave the SAAF Gripen AGM 65G on launch when the HUN gripen was added but then took 2 weeks adding them to the swedish model. Lets not say britain wasn’t treated the same.

Yeah, but why give the Hungarian one 65Hs when the other Gripens at the same BR don’t get access to them? Like, there’s no trade-off, one version is just a straight upgrade over another at the same BR

Heres your proof they weren’t there on launch because sweden air is always given last minute thoughts then actively ignored.

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Fair, just wanted to add that Gaijin apparently had to one-up themselves by adding another Gripen C with yet another upgrade over the existing Gripens at the same BR

Sweden has never had the best Gripen for CAS, SAAF Gripen had AGM65B and sweden with AGM 65A and when the SAAF got AGM65G which has a thermal seeker and HE warhead sweden was added a AGM65A with an HE warhead because thats good enough.

Again gaijin has made it more than apparent they hate sweden air, consistently we have to fight for the vehicle to be viable and a lot of the time we dont get a good change the only recent time we alone got something was when they locked the Di behind a paywall and tried to say the JA37D shouldn’t get RB99’s despite being created with that as its main purpose.

Even the Finnish F-18 gets to be held back because adding the same vehicle with a new IFF and HMD would devalue the US model. Its a joke and gaijin just consistently telling us to wait until a future update to have a equivalent vehicle is mind numbing. Both Germany and sweden consistently get this treatment for air and its a joke.

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