Pretty close I reckon from brakes off to landing gear up vs a light-combat fit Typhoon on max afterburner vs F-35B with skii ramp launch
F-35 would take longer to reach altitude probably, but imo its worth the couple seconds since you get a much more capable a2a platform
But… is it?
Whilst stealth does have its advantages, its not always everything. In a QRA situation, id consider the stealth advantages of the F-35 as negligble, comapred to handling, radar and minimal time to target. Those factors could be life or death
Im not dismissing the F-35s performance. Its good. I just think that its only exceptional in a few specific envrionments such as SEAD or CAP in contested air space.
In other mission types most common these days, like COIN, F-35 doesnt really do much that others can’t match or even beat.
I dont think any airforce should become entirely dependent on the F-35s and should maintain a mix of airframes, at least the ones that tend to get invovled such as the UK.
Like providing CAS to TIC, I reckon the Harrier Gr9 would slap an F-35 silly all day long in that role (we really shouildnt have retired them all)
- AN/APG-81 is one hell of a radar and considering how behind UK has been on fighter radars lately i think CAPTOR-E is maybe equivalent to it. then there is APG-85 which might as well be black magic.
- assuming upgraded 4 gen, 4.5, or 5 gen aircraft the F-35 is going to be much more survivable against the most modern jets.
- COIN is really just a pure payload game with some degree of sensor and speed involved.
- i agree with this, shouldnt be totally dependent on one jet.
- doesnt F-35 in beat mode have same or better payload, with vastly better sensors for a2g, and better weaponry
That is largely relative.
Sensors help, but good CAS is more about the pilots and communications with the JTACs than anything else. The handling of the Harrier allowed it to do things even the F-35 likely wouldnt try. (and I cant iamgien the cost of maintaining an F-35 after flying through dust storms) Weaponary is much the same as on the F-35B in RAF service, at least currently. But for things like Troops in contact, the Harrier could provide rocket attacks. Not something I see many F-35s doing.
Like I said, Yes, F-35 could probably do somethings just as well. But it isnt and shouldnt be automatically considered the best at everything just because .
In Some things like SEAD, its world class (soon to be perfected by the Spear-3 :P ). Stealth and a good radar make it good at BVR combat, but I do wonder how long till stealth becomes largely nullified (i.e if everyone has stealth and counter-stealth tech, does it really do much?) and stealth comes with major costs in terms of loadout, witrh it carrying a lot less missiles than the Typhoon for example.
if the CAPTOR-E can largely mitigate the stealth advantage of an F-35 for example (iirc, its counter stealth was a key feature) then is a Typhoon firing off 6-8 Meteors better than an F-35 firing off 4x Aim-120Ds?
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looking forward though, it could be 4-6 meteors on the F-35
and stealth is always going to be more survivable than non-stealth even with anti stealth tech since all that does is reduce the advantage given by stealth, not eliminate it
So, what will be new battleship next major update?
My expectation is
Great Britain(who has still at least three available modelling right now in War Thunder PC and Mobile)
Japan
Italy(as these two nations didn’t get anyting at Feburary to March?)
Thats if gaijin lets them have meteors, remember the Gripens dont get all their weapons even if they can use them. Gaijin will add what they want but you know its the US we’re talking about so actually its very likely you guys just need to scream and cry and you’ll get meteors.
we are talking about RAF ones specifically. though US ones could get meteors since they are probably going to be tested on those first after all, and with lack of official info on AIM-260 might be necessary for long range option
We still havent got a Revenge-Class. So that is what im expecting for us. (its an easy C&P)
Would kinda prefer KGV or even a decent Destroyer/Cruiser option (like a County-Class destroyer). But I dont hold out much hope for that
Tested doesn’t nean anything again Gripen example but counterpoint being the US cries and gaijin gives them whatever they want because they weren’t meta for 1 patch.
Now it wouldn’t be surprising if Meteor was worse than Aim 260’s because they cant make their favorite air nation.
GRB has Revenge class, KGV, Vanguard as modelling, so yeah maybe one of them.
Anyway, as Gaijin implies they will give iconical battleship this year, I think now GRB will face lack of penetration while boast best of survivability, which is contradictory to most other nations.
Britain+Europe tax is gunna result in meteor having less range than an Aim-120A
Swedish air Tax means Meteor wont have any fuel and just sits on our pylons. Ultimate way to finally kill off sweden air like they’ve been doing for years
Bonus note, ASRAAM is gonna be bootleg SRAAM with Aim 9B seeker lol
Will Sweden even get AMRAAMs on the Gripen E? Let alone Meteor? :P
Thats if Sweden gets the Gripen E, was thinking new premium for the US or Italy.
Probably Brazilian one for either
Thats what i was talking about.
Tbf wouldn’t suprise me. We already have US players claiming swedish bias since the Worst 14.0 is apparently better than the US F/A-18C but america mains try not to get the worst winrates challenge is literally impossible for most of the base bombing parasite fighters i see at top tier.
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Where is this happening? I must laugh at these people…
The only “Swedish Bias” in this game is the amount of heavily armored Leopard 2s they have at top tier. Meanwhile Germany only has one of their MANY possible variants. (cough 2A6EX, PSO-VT, TVM-MAX, 2A7+, etc.)
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I must have missed this. I have seen people complaining vice versa though.
Only time I have seen people saying Swedish bias is with regards to the Strv 122Bs.
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