Ok, so apparently I’m underestimating the amount of work it would take to merge Enlisted into War Thunder, where tanks and planes are already implemented, but it is not an underestimation to say that scratch building and implementing armored vehicles in a plane game is easier then, in effect, implementing infantry into a game that already has aircraft and armored vehicles already?
I’m sorry but I can’t see what sense that makes, especially when Enlisted uses the same engine. Obviously, it isn’t as easy as dropping the files from one game to another, but I severely doubt it would be harder then implementing armored vehicles from scratch, even if some of the systems are there in some capacity. From what it sounds like, you are the one who is underestimating the amount of work WT’s armored vehicle system takes to implement.
Especially when they’ve done it in War Thunder already, for both AI and player control, on top of being done before on this very Engine. Yes, I am aware that the instances I am bringing up, in regards to War Thunder aren’t perfect and not really intended to be full features with their own gameplay, but those instances, combined with them successfully implementing infantry into Enlisted, is a lot better to go off of then your hypothetical turret theory.
You only need to figure out how to do a biped once, and everything else is just dressing it up that’s easier said then done, I know, but compare that to having to create unique models for each and every tank? All with varying Trac k widths, weight distributions, armor layouts, module layouts (all of which have varying sizes and designs themselves)? Yeah, your statement sounds absurd because it is.
And boom there your answer Enlisted runs on the same engine meaning their shouldn’t be any point of infantry coming to the game. Because you got Enlisted
I fail to see what relevance that has to the conversation.
I can’t use any of the tanks or aircraft I’ve grinded out.
WT premium time doesn’t carry over to Enlisted
Enlisted doesn’t have any interwar or post WW2 kit/maps
It doesn’t stop the fact that WT is nipping at the heels of the content it can add that would make for a good update (from a marketing perspective)
I can’t bring infantry into custom battles.
But no, because Enlisted is on the same engine, which is wholly irrelevant from the consumer’s perspective, that means there is positively no reason I, or Gaijin, would want to merge the two titles.
i personnally don’t see the interest of infantry in WT. I mostly play for the “vehicle” aspect for the game.
That being said, i’m not entirely opposed to infantry in WT, but only of they get their own mode. Ground RB is already a hot balancing mess as it is.
Regarding technical implementation, the most work needed would probably come from map entire rework. Interior of buildings and entire sections of map are currently not modelled for example. I would assume it’s why submarines are taking so long to come. Orher than the balancing issues and the models, war thunder naval doesn’t really have any under water terrain modelled (expect very shallow waters, which represent 0.1 to 2 % of the surface area of a naval map).
From a physics engine perspective however, i don’t see it being a major issue. Going from plane to tank would have been complicated already, as ground physics are quite different to air ones
It would both increase and decrease the market. Yes you could lure some fps players in (which likely won’t stay anyway), but the change of pegi 12 to pegi 16 would mean the age range of 12-15 would become off limit to Gaijin in terms of marketing.
It’s not weird at all though. It’s incredibly clear that Gaijin really really likes WTs pegi 12 age rating.
Infantry simply means no more pegi 12. You can cope all you want, but reading the discription of the age rating there really isn’t a way for Gaijin to both have infantry and pegi 12.
The thing is, they must have had a good amount of ground physics ready from the start to allow for take-off, landing and crashing. The main thing that would have been missing is traction.
And as I’ve mentioned in another reply, it’s very likely that the idea to have tanks in WT came up pretty early in WTs development anyways.
The thing about infantry is the amount and complexity of interactions they need to be capable of when the game they are going up against is Battlefield.
Most things involving infantry need more complexity than planes, helicopters, tanks and ships. Be it the animations, collisions, customization, environments, interactions, movement abilities or weapons. And if the goal is to compete against Battlefield, you also need pretty complex damage model, more complex game modes and bigger server sizes (more than just 16 players per team).
Despite Enlisted and WT sharing an engine, the only thing they likely would be able to port easily over to WT would be the models.
Edit: Also, the servers and netcode would definitely need to be upgraded a lot to support larger match sizes, as 16 vs 16 is pretty small for a Battlefield-like shooter. If more players per team isn’t an option, matches would have to be padded out with a lot of AI.
@Smin1080p_WT A lot of players are still on the copium train for Infantry it seems, so I would like to ask was this statement a dud ?
“Very soon, a large-scale closed beta test of infantry will begin. We’ll share more details about the tech trees, weaponry, gear, and gameplay features in future devblogs.”
I agree. The World War I event has already ended. Now, the community is left with a feeling of uncertainty, wondering whether that announcement made on March 31 was real or just another April Fool’s joke. It would be great if someone from Gaijin could confirm or deny the entire thing. That way, everyone can move on with or without expectations…
