USAF F-16C/D Blk 25 & Blk 30/32 fired AIM-7M
But F-16CG (Block 40/42) and F-16CJ & F-16CM (Block 50/52) access AIM-120 only
I’m 100% sure (and add some copium as well) that it’s not complete yet, because surely they wouldn’t add such a depressing ground update as the december update.
Surely they wouldn’t (huffs some more copium)
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I highly suspect the devlogs will be on the 2nd, 09 would be too late
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i don’t think it’d matter whether or not is has ground strike capability. to me, it’s just a matter of germany finally making their own stuff and that the “west aligned” and “east aligned” tech lines are just done, time for the “euro line” and that’s what the alpha and tornado represent.
though it does make sense to order them by role or succession
You say this like Gaijin didn’t just make AIM-120 the best ARH (in most circumstances) and plonk it straight onto the best airframe to use them.
J-11A is still 13.7 despite being proabably worse than KWS in almost all ways.
Gaijin have 0 and I repeat 0 qualms about giving US nigh-unbeatable kit and calling it a day.
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yeah bro imma keep it real. Ground focused updates will become rarer as it becomes harder and harder to keep everyone on a relatively “even” playing field.
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yeahhhhh no… I agree the J-11A needs to go down to 13.3 but it’s better than the 13.0 Fox 3 carriers. The base J-11 already is one of the best 13.0s as is
Airplanes are becoming that way too, though.
Like, Eurofighter is pretty much the most advanced plane many nations can get. Later Tranches of that will be likely the strongest planes a lot of nations can get, end of.
Airplanes are approaching that issue but arent at that issue right now. Several nations ground wise have hit that wall already. What are you gonna give Japan or China for MBTs?
A terrible radar, possibly the single worst ARH and 1 datalink channel? Which 13.0 is this better than?
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the base Su-27/J-11 in their current states… are among the best 13.0s in the game. The J-11A is the same plane, but with an option for an ARH, and a MAWS… there is no way the F-4F ICE is better.
To be fair, I still think there are stages in between ground focussed updates and just straight up depressing updates for ground.
Like I’m not expecting ground focussed updates anymore, even though there are still plenty ground vehicles to add for pretty much every BR.
However updates also shouldn’t be straight up depressing for ground players, like most of the updates this year and like what this update seems to be shaping up to be.
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Last good ground update was Air Superiority and that wasn’t even centered around ground vehicles lol
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That is my line of thinking as well but partially copium.
I guess in the future add 2 F-4 battle rating 11.0 to rank 7 in researchable tree and 2 F-4 on premium tree
And 2 F-4 after F-4E & F-4J in rank 8
Rank 7
- F-4D (group before F-4E)
- F-4N
- F-4B (3rd event vehicle)
- F-4E Early (Blk 31) (first premium GE)
Rank 8
- F-4E (1986) (Blk 60 or 66)
- F-4S Late
Basically the only reason this is true is because R-27ER is the best SARH by a significant margin. But most SARH are negated hard by the lofting that all ARH do.
The actual flight performance of Su-27 is abysmal and marginally better than KWS or any other late Phantom.
Additionally 13.0 needs decompressing but ARH slingers obliterate the entire 12.0-13.0 range of planes.
unless we see ARH stuff sent to at least 13.7 for only the weakest of slingers (J-8F, JA37DI) F-15E/I imprisoned at least at 14.7.
Then there can be the beginning of sorting out the BR of Rank VIII planes.
This is a joke right?
The Su-27, J-11, JAS39A, F-15A have all RAVAGED the early Fox 3 slingers with absolute impunity. Because it doesn’t matter how good those Fox 3s are, if the plane they’re on isn’t good.
The F-4F ICE has the worst IRCCM missile in the game (the 9LI is just a worse 9M since it lacks the smokeless motor which is one of that missiles only advantages to begin with). 4 AIM-120s. A good radar. But no HMD and it’s a complete BRICK of a plane.
The Su-27 by comparison is faster, with an HMD, better IR missiles, SARHs that while worse than AIM-120s it can use more flexibly due to the HMD.
Early Fox 3 slingers are where they’re at for a reason. They’re not good.
I feel that stuff like this would be easier if BR’s would change with the modifications you have. Stuff like going from A/PESA radars and more advanced weapons would increase the BR of the aircraft when the relevant mods are selected. If you don’t have these upgrades or want to use them you can just remove them and use the earlier mods.
For something like the F-16C having a AIM-9X mod and Radar mod would increase the BR but if you didn’t have/want these you can just use the standard radar and 9M’s. Or it could be condensed into Block modifications, instead of separate mods for the radar and weapons you would just have a Block 52 mod.
Something like this would solve the issue of vehicles being moved up in BR and leaving a gap where Gaijin would otherwise need to add another aircraft to fill it or adding the exact same aircraft but with 2 different weapons.
We already have something similar to this with the Tornado ASSTA1 having an ASSTA3 mod that allows you to use LJDAM’s and a TGP on it but the Devs would need to just add the ability for the modification to dictate BR.
The list lacks a US jet. If Russia is getting a navalized Su-27, US can get an F-14D
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the U.S. doesn’t NEED a jet. They just got the 15E which is the most overpowered jet at 13.7 as it stands.
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