Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

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Standards-List and Differences / Changes

All standards can technically applied to any model of the Rafale, but not all were used on all models.

-F.1-

  • LF.1 - (Exclusive to Rafale M)
    Lacked: Air-to-Ground armament and OFS - limited to (2x) Matra Magic II and (4x) MICA EM
  • F.1 - (Exclusive to Rafale M)
    Added: GIAT 30M791B
  • F.1 - (F.1 Late) - (Exclusive to Rafale M)
    SNECMA M88-2E4 replaced the older M88-2E1

-F.2-

  • F.2.1 - (F.2 Early)
    Added: OFS, MICA IR, Air-to-Ground and Air-to-Sea radar modes, SCALP-EG, MIDS/L16 and SNECMA M88-2E4
  • F.2.2 - (F.2 Late)
    Added: AASM-IIR, AASM-GPS, SPECTRA update - GBU support (buddy lasing required)

-F.3-

  • F.3 - (F.3 Early)
    Added: Air-to-Surface radar mode, LAM for MICA, AM39, ASMP-A, AREOS Recco-NG pod (side note: no TGP)
    Lacked: DDM and OFS
  • F.3 - (F.3 Late) **
    DDM and OFS system re-added
  • F.3.2
    Added: Gun A2G mode*, DAMOCLES (-NG) - GBU-12, GBU-22
  • F.3.3
    Added: Full LGB support - GBU-24 integrated
  • F.3-4+ - (F.3R / F.4 ready)
    Added: Modernized SPECTRA system; MWS-NG, OFS-IT, DDM-NG, RBE2-AA plug & play
  • F.3R
    (F.3-4+) Added: RBE2-AA, MBDA Meteor missile, TALIOS pod, AN/AAQ-33 Sniper compability, AM39 Block II Mod. 2, AASM-L, Mk.81 / 82 / 83 bombs, GBU-16

-F.4-

  • F.4.1
    Added: AASM-1000, Scorpion HMCS, new and larger side displays in cockpit, new SAR and GMTI/T Radar modes, major Electronics updates (incl. new FHD video recorder, new underwing Jammers), LAM for Meteor, new IRST and improved dection, tracking and firing capabilities, SP3 modification allowing two additional MICA missiles serially used and towed Decoy “X-Guard” now technically possible

  • F.4.2
    Planned additions: MICA NG, Networking updates, Software / Cypersecruity improvements, MIDS/L16 Block 2, automatic landing assistant (Rafale M)

-F.5 ‘Super Rafale’-

  • F.5
    In development - Fixed planned additions: RBE2-XG, new TGP, MBDA Meteor MLU, AASF, major EW suit updates, new cruise-missile

*Unconfirmed
**F.3 Late is unconfirmed so far, we can assume that all F.3 Early were just modernized to an higher standard later on, way after the financial issues and F.3.2 introduction
***Unofficial designation

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Have you ever tried to use a missile camera to see anything?

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Here’s TIALD.

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Here’s a missile camera.

Any questions in terms of visibility?

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Kh-38MT has drastically different zoom levels compared to the IIR maverick, the 38MT’s are mote akin to a TGP in terms of zoom levels.

I believe it’s around 6-24x zoom vs 2.5-5x zoom on the Mav D/G

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you used an AMG65D…

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here is what the KH38MTs seeker looks like so please dont try and hide information

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4572

Which you know because I included that intentionally.

The important bit is, for some reason Gaijin has missile cameras using different contrast to any Thermal Targeting Pod. Much harder to pick out targets than even a bad pod like TIALD.

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It is sad that the F-2A is not on board while 4.5 generation fighters such as Eurofighter and Rafale have been leaked.

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my guy he is at the same range as when you used TIALD and it is a far clearer image, this is just cope at this point lmao

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Rather the will call it “Ice Hornet” due to the documentary called the same ;-)

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I have not but reversing your thermals for the second image would help. I have died to Kh-38T so many times recently. Since the update.

As for the thermals I can only go on gameplay footage from others
Not promoting this creator, just one of the first hits on Youtube.
6:30 in we see the thermals are pretty good for the missile (which once again I would question as other Russian missiles and drones using thermals are never this crisp and clear IRL). Seems strange why they would upgrade these missile thermals to gen 3

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I doubt J10B though, we can’t even work out what radar it has RN lol.

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Another BMD that’s not in the regular tech tree……… After 4 we get another one and it’s a premium

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Most of the stuff that would be in the december update has already been in the works for litterally months though.

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Not something the player can control. That was the winter test drive map, both taken on Gr 7. Missile camera just has the contrast like that. You can see in the video you linked that the Kh-38MT camera doesn’t have such strong contrast as any thermal pod, which is what I’m talking about.

Even a gen 1 thermal pod would make MiG-29SMT, Su-27SM and Su-34 into way better multiroles. They would still have atrocious flight performance, but it would be easier to pick out targets.

In any case, all current multiroles will pale in comparison to any Eurofighter that has even a gen 1 thermal pod and some terrible LGB and AGM.

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Pay to Win. :)

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iirc Creighton Abrams
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Acting like it’s not the best CAS plane for top tier ground at the moment and an absolute menace.

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Couldnt the german variant be a Tranche 1 Block 10 with some limited CAS ability?

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AGM-65D

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The devs have started to standardize thermals again, especially with the last (current) update. They only now look at the technological generation, not the resolution (this is likely because finding sources on resolution can not be found usually, and the overal simplification of thermals in game to begin with).

So I guess they found sources that say the thermal generation is 3 on the Kh-38MT or something, hence it gets 1200x800 resolution in game even though it may be much lower irl.

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F-15E is right there. 6 AGM-65D and 5 GBU-24. 11 free kills with the flight performance to do anything.

Would you like to explain how 6 Kh-38MT and 1 KAB-1500 is better?