Thats another topic for Britain duh. Sure, top tie ground and trans-millinnial jets pre-EFT were not what the Brits are known for being the best, but again, the navy, top tier naval. If anything, Britain would be the most powerful navy since most of the ships in the game - including Amagi and Kronstadt - were 1920s design, in the period where the royal navy was the most feared flotilla on earth. We cant see that, the county-class was worst in almost every way compared to prinz eugen, barely on par with pola etc. The hood and renown has terrible APCBC damage and their spread is worse than an AI scav with TOZ 400 meters away.
And also not forget how the CR3TD got an engine nerf because the CR3 production vehicles has a 1200HP engine. China officially left the gaijin ICU(Israel, China, UK) complext, while Israel do get occasional surprises, Britain never really left being a laughing stock.
From what I understand there were F-15Cs with APG-63(V)1 and HMS, but I’m not sure about the specific serial we got in game.
Though you’re right about the weapons, which I assume they limited to have more clear and large “steps” in their F-15s so they can have F-15A with 63PSP and SARH only (even if it’s an MSIP that could take AMRAAM), F-15C with 63(V)1 and 9M/120A and then probably the next step is a later F-15C with 63(V)2/3 and 9X/120C.
The F-15J(M) in game is another funny case, with it already being the latest Japanese F-15 (until the JSI is done) but limited to only AAM-3/4 with no AAM-5 or AAM-4B. I’d assume here they will add a variant with experimental nose mounted IRST to add those weapons as well, rather than add them to the existing airframe that very much both could and did carry them.
These seem mostly like gameplay decisions rather than historical ones.
Well naval for Britain is defiantly could of been better, the reason why I say air is because it is the worst tree. I mean how many nations got F-16, F-15s & Mig-29, Su-27.
And what does Britain has ? Oh yes Phantoms and Tornados.
Gaijin made themselves an open goal with their commonwealth statement since we could of had our very own New Zealand F-16 that they brought but at the last min cancelled.
But nope they went to add India because ? Russians
Keep your hopes up though. The Oplot is anticipated enough to draw players and entice them to spend some money. They don’t favor Russia over money.
And with Japan being less popular right now, less played, that just means more players that aren’t close to the Oplot, and might want to pay to speed up the progress. If anything, this is more profitable than adding it to the USSR tree.
I have a very good feeling I’ll be proven right before the year ends
Yea I mean I can understand the connection they were trying to make but like their are much better choices.
Like if they value the suggestions that much then they should of known Hungary, India and the netherlands were a bad idea.
Look at the Benelux the reason why it’s not a tree is because the amount of vehicles.
Even though they clearly knew the Benelux had a suggestion and knew it could.
I’m looking at the area of 5.7 and 8.0 and tell me what so different to Sweden’s pre finland 3.0 ?
As @MAUSWAFFE once again explained, AESA is kind a non-issue.
Sure in theory you get better datalink to target, however once the missile goes active it will never receive datalink information again. This is huge. It means AESA doesn’t have the super magic “ignore notch and chaff” capabilities that people keep touting.
Furthermore, Gaijin adressed the F-2 twice in recent years. First during the devblog for the AJ, which at the time they cited:
However, at the moment, adding the F-2 to the game is not possible due to its significant superiority in the quality of radar equipment and far more advanced air-to-air missiles.
Secondly, in one of the shooting ranges Q&A, Gaijin again mentioned that the radar is still a big factor.
However these responses were during the SARH meta and AESA does have a distinct advantage there (being able to target and hard lock multiple aircraft, essentially turning SARH missiles into pseudo ARH missiles (as long as targets are infront of the launching aircraft).
Now that we have the great equalizer that are ARH missiles, there isn’t much to gain from AESA. You do get faster refresh rates which would translate to better situational awareness through TWS. Though, I’m not sure what the FoV is on the radar as it doesn’t swivel on any axis, thus is greatly limited to the direction the aircraft is pointed, possibly more so than other aircraft.
I only know of one (AAM-4B) and those kind of weapons won’t be added anytime soon and are unrelated to the current AESA discussion which is about aircraft radars.
There is also J/ARG-1 which allows the AAM-4 missiles to function on a combined datalink and missile radar input, thus actually making AESA an advantage again.
But neither of these things are in game, and likely won’t be for a while. Even F-15J(M) has J/ARG-1, which would at least improve the missile by giving it the input from the aircrafts APG-63(V)1 radar, which is still far stronger than that of the AAM-4 especially in game where it is weaker than it is in reality.
This is an intentional balance decision and likely won’t change until the game progresses way past this point, so I doubt they’d decide that now is the time for AESA missiles like AAM-4B that are practically impossible to dodge and don’t even show up on RWR.
Yup, and it’s why I don’t think they’ll bother to model the combined datalink unless other aircraft have something like this and we have sufficient enough of them to push the meta that way.
Same reason we still have 60m multipath still, for balance/gameplay.
Long Cope post please dont read unless you like losing braincells.
Spoiler
Air wise Finland added nothing. It didnt fill out anything at BR’s sweden was lacking in again DK/Nor could do that.
Ground wise the panzer IV and t34 made a actual 3.x lineup then they killed it. (I dont count prem vehicles, thats a dumb argument to add) so we gained a good lineup then lost it. 4.0 with the T34 is okay but literally the uparmored T34’s exist at 4.0 alongside the KV-1B/E. Also finland has the heaviest T34’s because they were copy pasted without adding the add on armor to remove the excess weight. 5.3 had two tanks which gave the strv DT a semi usable lineup. Same with the t34-85 it allowed the Strv 74 to have one friend but any normal player skips these BR’s as the DT is the only good tank past 2.7 unless you like the Panzer 4 or t34. 6.7 has a Charioteer that could’ve been given the 105mm gun to add to the 7.x lineup before it was nuked. So now you have a 6.7 lineup with a meh LT, a good heavy hitter LT(PBV) and the spaa (Bkan) so 1 tank added here.
Past this the T54 is okay but 8.0 is always playing 9.0 imo and it really doesn’t do much other than give you another tank which is okay. The T55M is a T55A with a better APFSD. 9.3 lmao no one actually plays that so the T72 is kinda wasted when we couldve gotten the fin mod with era and a better engine to go with a 9.7-10.0 line up. The leo was eh. Not really needex and same with the 2a6. Patrias wouldve been better.
So again finland helped at 3.7 then was nuked so pointless. And 5.3 is probably the most they added but the tanks are alright. Not really a lineup ill play. So finland is kind of a skippable sub nation with no real value.
Bonus time, i will say finland did add something, the worst KV-1 in game that you have to pay for lmao.
I mean gaijin has also added prem tonks before other nations got the same thing later on. If it drives up sales for a nation then those who wait for it to come to their nation are also inclined to watch how said vehicle performs on the other nation. Though i suspect the real reason they also do that is to try and sell the prem tank before people realize how bad it is cough cough a certain useless KV-1 cough lol
