We’re talking top tier here … the want and the power creep here never ends
I think it is safe to say that the leclercs were not much better than CR2 ariete merkava VT4 etc - and many would have the same thought of reducing the S1/2s BR down to 11.3 with an UAE prem leclerc S2. The two tier 8 leclercs should receive a significant buff to their firepower, either DM53 - since the GIAT CN120 is 120 nato compat, or, the SHARD which would be given to the AMV as well.
Darings are the last proper DDs we got. And while they’re good nice and all, and it’s extremely funny to see you randomly get a “hit” or “target destroyed” indicator about 5 minutes after the match started (your torpedoes 580kg TNT equiv you volleyed off at the start of the match found someone), it’s not really a match for other DDs.
Currently we are, to my knowledge, one of only two countries that lacks usable missiles on our ships. The other being Japan, although in fairness to JP they have ships with Missile Tubes onboard, just non-functional.
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And they still lacked their radar, well, and the hedgehogs but they matter less. Mark 8 modified with that 589kg of punch definitely does good, but I have gave up on the torp challenge since i gor real life studies.
As of guided destroyers, I am writing up a suggestion or at least planning to do so for a batch A type 23 destroyer pre-refit, or probably the glamorgan. Sea slugs lacked the attributes to be a proper anti supersonic SAMs, but 90% of the CAS in the game are still Pe-8s or lancs. They can also be pretty devastating to ships or surface targets(that is what the glamorgan did in falklands lol). Sea cat would be cool as an actual AA missile.
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It was still a joint project that was intended for use by both nations, so it’s reasonable to assume both could get it.
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France probably really just can’t get a top tier premium MBT until Gaijin finally decompresses the hell out of the ground BRs.
Realistically speaking, the Leclercs really shouldn’t all share the same BR and as soon as there is a Leclerc that isn’t at the top BR they can release a Leclerc S1 or whatever with a camo net as a pack premium and call it a day
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Long behold that when the benelux ground gets added there is a prem 2A4NL.
At least the strv 121b has those weird ass smoke dischargers.
I thought the Netherlands only have 2A6s
Edit: I’m silly, apparently they were the biggest customer for Leopards out there, having operated 2A4s, 2A5s and 2A6s
I think you’ll find Sea Slug Mk2 was modified to that end. Though, I am in the process of acquiring some literature, and to avoid duplicate work I know someone is actively working on Type 82 (I’m helping on it)
(Don’t even go there, it hurts me in so many ways)
I take issue with Seacat unless it’s GWS.24 (the automatically targetting and engaging version) because jesus christ that thing sucks.
But yes, the falklands were full of… “interesting” modifications to missiles. There are accounts of Blowpipe, Sea Dart, Sea Wolf, and Sea Slug all being used as anti surface weapons, or being modified such that they could be employed in this way.
The first few destroyed leopard in Ukraine was 2A6NLs too, instead of the ones Germany operated
In war thunder the 2A6NL was already representes in the game as A6 FIN, which was the case.
I wonder is there a naval-oriented discord for gathering research and literatures? I am trying to gather info on a few nations ships as well
And whose vehicle would that be? Also, I don’t think another country will have those in the mean time, if ever
Israel recently expressed interest in participating in Romanian MBT procurement trials
Errr, not a general one put it that way - there’s some various “nation” discords I know of but a Naval one I wouldn’t know.
I don’t know for USA, and even if they are not in great shape they are in better shape than some others nations x)
Wich would be sad because of the already leaked 2 leopards, when Belgium have probably near a dozen of cool vehicles that are not copy past.
And i hate them for that, perfect example that they don’t care about us when they can do that for almost every other nations.
Multiple M1 Abrams premium, multiple Leopards, multiple T-xx, but none Leclercs when we have 7 variants from proto to S1 possible to add… I hate them.
Gaijin : We are no longer gonna do unique events vehicles.
Players : Ahhhh sick that means unique stuff for the tech trees.
Gaijin :
(Adds two C&P Dutch Sea Hawk and Fury)
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One cool things would be from BeNeLux to mainly add premium/event stuff to the Ground TT, and keep the TT free for the shiton of domestic stuff still possible to add on wich Gaijin sleep since years.
I’m happy that the CV is a squadron, don’t take a place in the TT for a copy past, specially when we have similar stuff domesticaly made to add (now Gaijin just have to addd them)
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Yea that stuff make sense as you said it leaves room for stuff meant for the tech tree.
Now it’s getting towards the case of well if your just keep adding more Benelux things to France then what was wrong adding them as a nation in the first place ?