Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1) (Part 1)

It’s coming day 1918 trust

If you know, you know 🌚🇵🇱🇵🇱

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yeah the other issue fixed itself when i logged in to warthunder through chrome

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Yes please more Sabra variants and Merkava MK3D for tech tree.

I’d personally prefer

F4F (Early) 9.3 Only AIM-9B FGW.2 - no Flares

F4B 9.7 Premium, AIM-9B/AIM-7C - No Flares ( Equivalent MIG-21S)

F4C 9.7 AIM-9B/AIM-7C - no Flares ( Equivalent MIG-21F-13)

F4D Early AIM-9E/AIM-7D/AIM-4 10.0 + Flares (semi historical)

F4E Early AIM-9J/AIM-7E 11.0 + Flares

F4D Late AIM-9L/AIM-7F 12.0 + Flares

F4E Late AIM-9L/AIM-7M 12.3 + Flares

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not enough magachs

honestly we need more Magachs and Sabras

@Smin1080p_WT
With the “Allied Flag” reward for victory day, where are the Dutch, Canadian and Chinese flags?
The commenwealth forces of Canada had a vital part in the liberation of the Western front of Europe, while the Netherlands and China were crucial forces in Asia. It’s sad that these nations seem to be forgotten all the time.

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probably be on-par with F-4C, so 10.0,
even if it isn’t, 9.3 is far too low

Better engines
Lighter
Internal Cannon
Agile Eagle

Resulting in MUCH better flight performance for the cost of

slightly worse IR missiles
No Sparrows (AIM-7D wasn’t amasingly useful anyway)

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Maybe for US ones:

I don’t think an early F-4 would sell.

10.0 , F-4C, AIM-7D and AIM-7E, AIM-9B and AIM-9E

10.7 , F-4D, AIM-7E and AIM-7E-2, AIM-9B and AIM-9E

11.3 , F-4E, current iteration

12.3, F-4E Late, AIM-7E-2 and AIM-7F, AIM-9J and AIM-9L

I also checked the ordnance options for F-4D (early, 1967 to 1972). It won’t have TV bombs except Walleye 1. But it can theoretically have the Pave Knife pod and 500 & 2000 lbs Paveway 1 bombs. These bombs are carried in the leftmost and rightmost planes, therefore 2 bombs max. There is also the 3000lb bomb and 750lb bombs but the 750lb one was exclusively used before any guidance pod being developed and I am yet to see an instance of 3000lb paveway being used.

Which should be fine considering you lose 2 AIM-9s to mount the pod (it can be used in the middle pylon I guess but I will search). And CMs pod will occupy the middle pylon or the other AIM-9 pylon, and for the gun it is the same.

And also F-4D in ideal case can have AIM-7E-2 at 10.7, as other radar missiles will have a minimum range of around 4 kms to effectively work and at uptiers you will mostly face MiG-23s. So you might not even be able to climb and shoot your radar missiles effectively.

All I need is Aim-9L for the TT F-4F

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aim-9l’s are awfull though…

Yet better than 9J

but the 9j’s keep that thing at a lower br…

You mean 11.0 in ARB Or 10.3 in GRB?

Could be eazely 11.0 with 4x 9L in ARB, and even if it would be 10.7 in GRB because, muh 9L… it would not change anything
#Thanks_BR_compression

Anyway, another topic if anyone wants to leave their opinion there. :)

Yeah that is true

Never said we’d get it all in one go tbf. We will be getting a Rafale or VIPER more likely than not (willing to bet on it being the Rafale). In all honestly, I don’t expect or care too much for unique aircraft arriving in between ranks so long at the Rafale arrives, and Rank I-III remain possible.
Only unique vehicle I might expect is the AUP PI-2000. Again the main area of interest to me is the low tier potential Greek aircraft, as when or if gaijin decides to go back and give Israel a Rank I-III, this will be something it wouldn’t be able to survive without (for the air tree).
Basically, I don’t care about getting “unique” vehicles in the Subtree. I only care about the tree getting what it needs where it needs it. This Subtree has the potential to help with all of the glaring air tree issues.

IV-VIII would be fine on its own yes, but that’s not my point. A potential rank I-III would not, the gap between 6.0-7.7 is ever present, and there’s no 4.5 gen capable of filling 14.3-14.7 that Israel uses. Without Greece there’d be a gap between the F-15/16I and F-35I. Israel is currently the only aircraft with 14.0 as its top aircraft.

I’m also of the opinion 3 lines is ugly, and the 4th Greek line would be nice. Muh bigger is better logic idk

yep. this is @TheMightySardine’s logic apparently.

i agree, sabras are one of the only magachs i would wanna see in the tech tree.
sabra mk 2 (Iron fist)
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sabra mk 2 (early) (triple launchers iron fist)


pereh our beloved fake tank

magach marksman
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and thats IT

Spoiler

ok maybe the magarkava
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