Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

Also likely to be gimped because of high internal fuel capacity. 3 options, min fuel of a handful of minutes, a medium amount which is just a bit too heavy and full tank which turns it into a boat.
See the Lightning F.6 as an example.

Oh found it, thank you very much :DDDDD

top reason I don’t watch most Wt CCs

only Dollar plays, he doesn’t try to talk stuff about the game and technology

thats whats bound to happen, if gaijin wont let us have 4x r27ER MINIMUM, americans wont

of course, dev server is there for them to see feedback on how it performs, so i hope if the su27 is indeed coming, theyll slowly remove r27ers from pylons until it shows us how balanced it is, instead of just taking them away first thing

Addendum: For the Su-27 you could swap out the R-27ET’s for T’s or R-73’s, but not R-27ER/R’s. Why you would do that really doesn’t make sense, except for that the ET’s seeker, in game, is still bugged unfortunately.

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Your first pull should still be the most competitive AOA pull in game, for now, even under fuel. Temp G’s on the Su-27 was very strong.

While the fuel load is going to be nice in terms of not needing a tank, it will also burn fuel pretty quick, those AF-31’s are thirsty AF.

If they give us a variable fuel slider, it will be a massive QOL upgrade for the Su-27/J-11.

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I doubt the US needs more missile bus planes, that’s already done to death.

I’m a lot more interested in general flight characteristics, since many planes have a radar which doesn’t care much for chaff and can guide an AIM-7F/M into a target in most situations.

How fast on the deck, how maneuverable, energy retention etc. Dogfighting characteristics in short.

Soviet Su-27, I fear, may be gimped for a few patches like the MiG-29 9-13 was for many patches. But it would at least offer missile bus gameplay to Soviet players who have been mostly doing dogfight gameplay for a while.

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wouldn’t 6 R-73 + 4 R-27ERs be the better loadout for Warthunder anyways?

better than the Viggen?

Like I said, with seeker problems, probably. Late game, land and refit, it would be pretty goated in late game as a long distance surprise. Especially if they give the Mech radar the ability to temp lock out of TWS just to launch the ET and go cold.

Because top tier AFRB gameplay is terrible.
Teams and bombing bases / ground targets are cramped together the same way as always but on much bigger maps than before.

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I don’t really want fuel tank sliders since that would promote hideous amounts of minmaxing which is already a bit of a thing with tank ammunition loadouts. I would prefer to have options like:

Min, 20%, 40%, 60%, 80%, Max.
Just some more convenient options but not an exact slider because of the minmaxing.

I’d also like tanks to be able to pick ammo racks to fill or empty for the same reason.

I don’t actually know that for certain. But a single pull, where you dump almost all your energy, should allow you to nose on to almost every western plane currently in the game, F-16A might just be slippery enough to get away.

Soviet doctrine was all about first shot, if you miss your first pull, you’re gonna be circled to death, more than likely.

Also, we have the furball of death so this also doesn’t really apply, lmao.

why is that a bad thing? people can take minimum fuel already

It’s very sad that bombing gameplay is undoubtedly the best way to gain Research Points and yet a reasonable solution to allow dedicated bombers practical existence is generally denied.

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because you can choose a perfect amount of fuel while still being light, therefore giving you an advantage

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These are screenshots from videos from MatAwg, a friend of his made these (they are not leaks) He even said he knew someone might make screenshots to fool others, these are made only to speculate what the loadout might be IF these planes would come.

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yes, whats so bad about that?

if it’s added everyone can do it, it’s just another technique to learn

Even better than M4K ?

Twice enginepower of Mirage 2000 for less than twice the weight, delta, canards, slats… I think it would be a monster in dogfight too :D

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not all planes have that kind of ability