Why would I make a suggestion about it now? We are close to a new Leopard anyway.
I’ll just always call out swedish BS mentality that they somehow weren’t hand held for ground.
Many tanks should have more robust mantlet/breeches, but they do not, this is for balance purposes. Otherwise T-90A,S, and the soon to come M, just as examples, should be almost immune to threats at their BR’s.
The ERA in question is marketed as Armor Shield R. It’s the same stuff Rafael puts on the IDF’s Zeldas. It’s meant almost entirely for chemical protection, and gives marginal protection up to 30mm KE threats. The 84mm’s of extra protection I’ve seen thrown around is much larger than zero, but 84mm is still not that significant vs threats at that tier.
All ERA code is the same. Nothing is independently modelled. If they give the ERA some KE protection, they’re going to have to set some arbitrary “anti-KEP” effect from 0-100 to emulate the missing 84mm’s of KE. They need to find a way to rebuild ERA and KEP’s.
The rest of your complaints are totally understandable, and I think generally everyone supports.
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What hand held. Yes, they had a better armored Leopard 2A5s, but if i remember correctly for 2 years their top tier round was a DM33…which Germany use at 9.0/9.3 (then 8.7)
you can use 2 500kg and 3 250kg, while the 250kg are close an equivalent to the 1000lbs, i most of the time just use the 5 250s or 4 250s and one 600kg. and also have tracers and much more ammo for the guns
Since when does Germany use 120mm DM33 at 9.3?
Seriously brother you should probably take a look at trees that aren’t sweden sometimes. It would do you good.
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That’s hilarious when you compare the trees…
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Guess what mate. I dont focus on one TT. And my most played one is a fucking Italy.
DM33 105 isn’t the same as DM33 120 yk
That makes it even worse. You seriously don’t know that 105mm DM33 isn’t 120mm DM33?
Yeha, but it isnt great as top tier round also.
It’s a pretty decent round for top tier, sure it’s not M829Ax or DM53, but the add on armor more than made up for that difference in penetration.
Yeah, it can. I would even be fine if you would have researchable mod on 2A5 where you can add it, but Gaijin decided no. And im sorry, that Swedish military didn’t use anything else.
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It almost went to Germany as a premium, as argentia is a subtree there.
Why are we fighting over tanks rounds?
I’d rather Vehicle/nation speculation to come back.
Yup. That was much better.
I’d love to see a 2A6M mod for current German Leopard 2A6
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How spoilt are you when you think those jets are not useable CAS.
Sure…i wouldnt mind seeing that also. But once again, they need to make a suggestion for that. And not yell at me that Germany got a Leopards version that Gaijin gave then and Sweden getting the only version of Leopard 2A5 that they used.
soviet era just exists…
Usable? sure but at this point American A-4E is a better CAS