Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

next week is gonna be spicy i cant wait

The hope on this man is something i wish i had

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I’m not so sure this but guess in the future (2024 ~ 2027) new fighter aircraft toptier after Mirage 2000-5F it might be Rafale B F1 or Rafale C F.2.2

Still hope i will finaly see Gripen in trailer.

Either we’re going for Prototype Thunder or you’re talking about WT well into 2030’s and thats even more ridiculous

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If Gaijin cared about long term health like they did in the past maybe, but greed still has a strong hold over them with all the money they get from premiums. So they put in as little work as possible.

Challenger 2 has been absolutely broken for ages now, with bug reports that are multiple years old.

They’re all insanely easy to fix too. Move the gunner and commander lower, so they sit behind the strike face of the turret cheeks and can’t be headshot through the roof with APFSDS.

The mantlet should survive direct APFSDS from L27A1

The ammunition stowage in the drivers compartment makes 0 sense and in photographs, has been proven to not be there.

The UFP should be far more survivable

The addon LFP armor should contribute far more KE resistance as it’s a composite block

The ERA should be ASPRO-HMT, with 1200~ CE and 84mm KE
Right now, the ERA is “generic ERA” and in the code, is the same as the M60’s ERA…

The fixes are literal text file changes, or 5 minute jobs in the engine to relocate the 3D hit boxes.

$70 though and you too, can have the slowest tank at top tier and can enjoy the hefty benefits the Challenger 2 (WIP) has to offer such as…
uh…
Aesthetics!

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yep , it may sound stupid at first but this is what i belive will happen

welcome to the life of a [mostly] “minor-nation” main

They charge UK players the same amount of money for the worst 11.3 phantom as they do US players who get the best 11.3 phantom. UK only exists in WT to serve as targets for the major three.
Anyone who buys a premium chally 2 is clowning themselves.

I didn’t know mixing that much hopium and copium was safe for average use.

But what if i want to be a clown

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some times i wonder if i haven’t gone insane since a couple years ago

Sometimes i wish Gaijin would provide the sourse from which they were taking from.

I might be wrong but considering you can hide your sources for only staff to see on bug report, that data can be as well classified, thus making that Impossible.

For example 2S6 was buffed to 32G and source on bug report was hidden for public eyes, so it could still be classified.

Oh yeah, I agree. I want it to stay.

Still, there are quite a few premiums that have been removed before, so I want to make sure Xd

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Me too. I’ve made topics covering Challenger 2 in essentially Essay format with citation and sources. Yes it took me quite a while to find the evidence and justify my reasoning, but as I went along, I was also looking for sources that supported Gaijin’s values. I found nothing. Zilch. Nada.

Take TES for example. The main change from Challenger 2F and TES is of course, the bigger ERA package on the sides.
2F can protect against 400mm CE and 30mm KE with it’s unnamed composite side skirts.
TES? For 5.8 TONS of additonal weight you enjoy the update to…uh… 400mm CE and 30mm KE.

TES was introduced and in service at 2008. The ERA (ASPRO-HMT) was designed to totally protect against RPG rounds (you can read this on their brochure) the main Anti-Tank round for the RPG-7 at the time is the tandem warhead PG-7VR. To protect against this, ASPRO-HMT must be able to defeat tandem HEAT penetrators. Not unreasonable given PG-7VR has been around since 1988.

The single stage, obsolete round is PG-7VL. the single stage warhead. It’s penetration according to the manufacturer? 500mm. The TES’ side ERA designed to completely negate RPG cannot defeat single stage anti-tank rounds from the cold war, let alone the one’s the MOD would have developed this for.

So what is different with TES?
The weight. That’s pretty much it.

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Doesnt Gaijin have a polici not to used a still clasified documents?

You can’t provide classified sources.
The reason for hiding documents is when sharing from books, and you don’t wish to provide the pages and reading material to the public for free.

Yeah, it is like with WAR kit on Ariete. It make the tank like 4 tons heavier, but you get extra 30mm of KE protection on turret cheeks…in sorry, but something that was develop in like 90’s-2000 to give extra KE protection is pretty silly. But here, have a 3rd Gen ERA stopping APFSDS.

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