propably yeah
yup, agreed
4000 is a beast in itself.
Also i think those loadouts with double digits missile carrying capability are a bit overrated.
6 on the mirage 2000 will already be enough i think, and Rafale can do 4 meteors + 4 mica for the far future, if people want heavy loads (and i’m pretty sure that 8 missiles figure will evolve by the time the game reaches those planes anyway)
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I don’t think they will add the M4K with 14 MICA but instead with the maximum possible loadout at the time of project cancellation of 8, but either way it would be formidable, particularly as the PoK of MICA is higher than many other ARH missiles.
Would be Russian bias at it’s best.
Probably on par with the Abrams. Although it would be nice if it was a bit cheaper, as an incentive for purchase.
Its unfortunate because that turret with a reformed hull would be fantastic. One of the prime reasons the British Army wanted the vickers mk.7/2, Leo 2 or Leclerc or Abrams and not the challenger was mobility.
Eeeeh, it’s probably going to get bodied, especially if we get fox-3 this update
Meh radar
Meh SARH,+ limited number of them and they severely limit the number of IR missiles you can take
No HMD
Maneuvrability is probably not going to be great due to the size
possible, but highly unlikely. It’s not just france’s way of doing things, we like to have (and sell, which was the whole point of the 4000) our own missiles.
Not to mention R60 was too old at this point.
As for R73, it has a similar weight to mica. Which would leave only the aim 9 series, which wouldn’t really make sense either, considering it was a direct competitor to the magic II with similar weight & profile
After getting fucked by both the government and covid simultaniously I deserve to spend 70 euro of the money I got from them.
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DM 53/63/73 or Ke2020NEO from the RH 120 L55a1 and then the currently in-development UK-German round but no name has been decided yet for this round so it’s uncertain if it would be DM 83 or something else.
That plus smart ammunition
yeah, the leak is credible. real credible
i think the plane would do fine in dogfights tbh.
But quantity and airframe capabilities can’t compensate for poor performing missiles, as you pointed out, so i agree. 530Ds and Magic IIs against R77 & R73 or AIM120s & Aim9Ms is not going to be fun, not gonna lie
Sure totally, as i said before the M4K with Mica would be a later variants, but the earlier with magics 2 without or not 530Ds can totally come now.
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I thought I remember reading that Britain was interested in M829A4 as well? Might have been wrong though.
I dunno 14 MICA seems kinda overkill although with a range shorter than contemporaries and a radar limited by its development period it would probably be balanced as lots of things could SLAM it before it gets within MICA range to spam MICA’s back.
doesnt exist yet
literaly the KE2020NEO , they are the same round
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Yeah, especially considering that list is the 4th iteration of the same leak list…
The size of the plane is going to be problematic
A delta THAT big is going to bleed energy really fast
And he’s going to face F-16 and Mig-29
(And US and russian missiles bus if the leak is true)
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I’m not sure but Britain has been offered pretty much every RH120 L55A1 compatible round although given how long they retained the CR2’s rifled gun, they probably don’t care that much about penetration and will pick the cheapest option.
IMO until we get stats about the German-UK round it should get the same rounds as whatever the top German Leopard is using.
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Yeah but TwR > 1.1, it would regain energy quickly
It’s twice the Mirage 2000s engine power, on a plane that is slightly less than twice the weight of Mirage 2000s.
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