What?
They always do those statements when theres a big debate about something in the community.
Japanese F-16, Ariete AMV, Japanese SAM, PSO etc.
1 Like
i did say CAS didnt I?
yes but i am just showing german ones arent great either, hell russias premium is literaly at the time germany 2nd best plane (Mig 23ML)
no we just complained a hell lot more, didnt help that there already was the KF41 issue in the same patch and our community was already angry about that to begin with
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/186cjit/amraam_leak/
Not sure if this is legit. Bad news for the UK I guess, as it almost certainly means Seaharrier or AMRAAM-nado.
Even if stuff arrives late to germany, it arrives earlier than it normally does for minor nations. The UK has been left in the crapper for years. You guys literally have two mig29s in the last year. The Tornado isn’t even a fourth generation fighter, it’s a cold war CAS plane that was adapted to long range intercepts. The best part is that it will STILL probably be our best option for another year at least. But German mains get upset they have to wait a patch for their mig29G which gets missiles it never used.
1 Like
It’s not
1 Like
Perhaps i’m wrong in that case but from the vids i see from time to time, Azur didnt looked like a bad plane to play. Far from the choices of planes they made for us.
Things is when you complain they immediatly answer and promise things. Little reminder but there is some French tech in German TT that France got later, or still don’t have, and we have nothing in exchange except silence, that’s the boring thing. We live your KF problem since years.
Edit:Anyway too much offtopic, sorry about that.
1 Like
thats another issue, Uk didnt receive anything because there arent any real options, while germanys F4F and Mig 23, came later then their tech tree arrivals and even then both first came as a freaking event variant to milk the money out of germany
and that shouldnt be the case, i completly support the UK issue, but what of this make me or should stop me to voice out the complains of the german tech tree that didnt get an addition for 3 years as well, hell there is enough additions that would have been viable with the same capabilites and small changes germany would have taken just do have sth to do and bolster the line up. Sweden being the better germany and getting the 2A6 with a sub tree. Taking any uniqueness out of german top tier
1 Like
at that time of its arrival it was sadly, it is 11.0 without bvr missles and r60mks, with constant uptiers to 12.0 where everything and anything either outranged you, was faster or more agil, the occasional downtier is nice, but uptiers nearly unplayable
that wasnt the case they didnt immediatly answer, hell they didnt even address it in the q&a or the devblog only after , after we didnt stopped complaining
Just becauss they don’t get handheld in 1 specific area doesn’t make them any less hand held in general.
No offense, but you have hardly played anything outside of Germany. I don’t think you opinion is unbiased enough to determine who is or isn’t hand held.
1 Like
so they didnt get handheld in air, not in top tier ground. Makes it already more then 2. the only thing i know for being handheld in th recent times so to say is naval, which i only know from hearsay and most propably dont care to much about
i want to play more, but it still is hard to finish 1 tech tree /needs a long time, my next plan is china propably to check out a redfor nation (dont wanna touch russia for personal reason)
2 Likes
Do you guys remember when they said UK phantoms couldn’t get 9Ls, but that the Japanese EJ Kai would get a better radar and 9Ls because they weren’t getting anything for a while? Do you remember when the next update after they did that, they gave Japan an imaginary F-16 anyway?
I can’t fathom how far down the pecking order British players must be if they aren’t willing to do the same for us. Not to mention they have an abundance of options if they decide to use common wealth vehicles, which would be far more realistic than just gifting a nation an F-16.
That’s just looking at the air tree. Our ‘best’ SPAA has been bad for years, and for the last few months has actually been so bugged it’s GENUINELY unplayable, not just the german-main meaning of unplayable. Our MBTs are famed in real life for their survivability, yet they are the worst in WT. We have no light tanks, despite having lots of options in the British Army.
Try playing the UK tree if you want to experience real oppression.
3 Likes
u say that like the german one received their 9Ls
i am aware and gajin needs to desperately fix that
and i support all that, but why should that stop me from voicing out the complains of my tech tree?
1 Like
What do you mean. Germany gets seriously hand held in the major part of the ground tree compared to quite a lot of other nations.
1 Like
Not matter how many times you say this, people will just simply not get it, crab mentality
1 Like
Germany got a Tornado IDS AND a mig29… You literally got everything the UK did and more. You missed out on a crappy Tornado F.3, which is honestly a boon for your sanity.
You’re entitled to complain, but I was focused more on the aspect of you saying France was treated better than Germany by GJN. I don’t think that is true. Maybe the correct way to phrase it, is that Germany is neglected less.
He has point just cause Britain gets shafted doesn’t mean no one else has the right to complain about their nation
3 Likes
MiG-29 with weapons which germany NEVER bought, those variants can’t use it
2 Likes
Realistically, everyone except Russia and USA should be complaining.
Introducing the Su-27 and F-18…
3 Likes
Not really if there is issues it should be talked about no matter the nation
^honestly if you wanna complain about handheld the recent year, go complain about italy, they got their tornado and the F16 in one patch, while the mig 29 came later . In general italy was the star of the show this year
i did not say france is being treated better, i said it is in a good spot right now nothing more
I agree, but when I play top tier Russia the only issue I ever have is too much choice.