New US SPAA Systems?

I recommend you reread what i said then and your response lmao.

I’m actually surprised that the M6 Linebacker hasn’t been added to the US tech tree. It only served for a short time, but it was active in the inventory, deployed to Iraq, and BAE even did an upgrade (pictured below) when the Army was in the market for a new SPAA system a few years ago.

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I read the:

In a sarcastic way implying there is no need.

Your second message reinforced that reading when you argued it didn’t need one because of ADATs

My bad for missreading that.

Is it needed more than the long list of BR gaps… No… is it needed overall? yes it would be nice, wtf is hard to understand about that? Definitely tell your a US main you argue about absolutely f**k all. Lmao

Bad news, US is like my 2nd or 3rd least played nation.

Not sure why you are still arguing about that. I never commented on one being more important than the other. I missread what i thought was a sarcastic comment.

Maybe helicopters could make use of the defense mechanism known as “terrain”?

Y’know… instead of hovering 500-1000m in the air like they own the place, as they currently do.

Aircrafts still have chaff and RWR though. So i think AGM-114L against air targets wouldn’t be that deadly.
But still useful none the less. Also proximity fuse round from 30mm alone would pose a threat to any aircraft withing 2-3km .

Well if only Stinger didn’t stay gimp as it is…

I dont think they added enough radars onto the upgrade, slap on a radar trailer and youve got a deal

I don’t know how chaff affects the AGM-114L. Do you know?

Brimstones had relatively chaff resistant seekers.

Well i don’t (what i got is that it said “Hardened against countermeasures”) But i assume chaff would still confuse the missiles guided . While helicopter duck for cover or doing evasive maneuver. So missiles could miss its targets

Still with dual code capability [Radar / Laser] Missiles could still reach its targets with Laser guidance

Just like brimstones, hellfire longbows use millimeter wave radar seekers. Way harder to confuse these seekers with chaff. Chaff that is used against X band would not be effective towards hellfires. I don’t know what composition of sizing the russians use in their ka-50/ka-52 chaff. It might be that their chaff is not made to defeat millimeter wave radar guided missiles at all as this is not a common threat. Really would need more information on their chaff to know wether it would be effective or not. It is way easier to produce chaff against x band because the individual units are way larger in size. The higher you go in frequencies, the more specific your length of dipoles have to be. This is not efficient at all and you would very rarely if ever face such a threat anyway. If the chaff was tailored against mmw seekers it would work though.

tl;dr it is both possible that russian chaff would work and would not work depending on how they have manufactured it and with what priorities in mind. Need more information towards russian chaff to figure this out.

we need info for all chaff against Radar in general. or at least some study/research Since some smoke grenade in ground vehicles also has chaff as countermeasures. Plus more and more Fire and Forgot ATGM starting to get add to WT.

But as you said advance chaff are also exist as an options

It’s not as important though because it is pretty obvious that fighter jets would have chaff to defend against X band and such and it would not change much, but that added information could be useful anyway for minority situations.

I have also heard some stuff about ground vehicles being able to deploy chaff as countermeasures. Here it is more plausible for the chaff to be effective against mmw seekers. How many vehicles would have this option though? How effective would it be at what time?

I will try to conduct more research. If russians consider it classified then even if we found any useful information we wouldn’t be allowed to use it to make any suggestions in game or talk about it on forums. So, most useful piece of information to know right now is wether the chaff composition is classified or not…-

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U wanna take that back now 😭