But what if i dont wanna earn them? what if i just wanna play the game and enjoy myself. I understand not gaining any silver yeah, but to lose them is not fun. Its shitty game design and they probably made it that way so people would buy silver. And im sure people do.
Does everyone just agree with this? I dont get it. Dont you see how predatory this game is?
Its very simple. You need SL to play the game and you have a choice how to do it. You can either earn it or buy it. Its up to you what will you choose.
Sorry, but if you keep loosing more SL than earning them, constantly, then something is way off with your gameplay. You don’t need to buy SL with real money unless you want a lot of SL in a short time and don’t know how to do it.
A maybe important aspect: you can chose to either auto-repair and auto-resupply, which will automatically repair your vehicle and fill up your used ammo, but doing so you lose control over this. You can also chose to repair and resupply on your own, and for repair just wait until your vehicle is repaired automatically.
Note that when in hangar, hovering your mouse over a vehicle will open it’s stats card, where you will find the vehicles repair cost, it’s repair time (in case you select to not repair with SL). And if you open your tech tree / research tree, you see two little check boxes in the lower right corner, one for automatic repair and one for automatic ammo refill. Check those if the repair and resupply should be done automatically, uncheck if you want to do so manually.
But can you maybe really just tell us what premium vehicle you purchased, and what game mode you play with it? How much do you earn with it? How much you lose?
What did you expect? That Gaijin is offering all vehicles and unlimited SL to anyone who has bought one or two vehicles and a bit of a premium account?
For the game: i agree, the informations on SL expenditure are not full easy to found . they are in economics messages (on the down right, the letter symbol). The games results will are soon updated with that all informations in 1 window.
i earn SL in 80% of my games even when i play in hight tier vehicles (rank VII and VIII, br 11.7). The reason? i dont have only 1409 battles on my account … I know whose the game works … I know where place my vehicle … I know when open fire … I know where aim … I know whitch vehicle engage or not depending on which one I’m playing …
But that, i doing many battles for learn it … And i dont come crying on the forum at the first annoyance …
And if you hadn’t come here to cry and shit on former players and were simply asking for advice on how to earn SL, maybe I wasn’t being rude to you.
You have 2000 battles in ground and 600 battles in Air and you dont know how SL works? Nice bait…
When you are in the hanger, where you see your line up for that tier, in the bottom right corner you will see an envelope. If you click that, it will give you are break down of cost (SL) for that battle. Profit/lose statement as it were.
So from my understanding, you bought a 7.0 premium vehicle, grinded to 9.0, but started losing SL at 9.0 and your NEW PLAYER that don’t have the mechanics/skill/understanding down yet…yeeaaaaah Top Tier is a mess at the moment with repair costs and SL income. If your not premium and have constant unlucky/bad games, you won’t make SL but rather lose SL. Since your premium, you shouldn’t be losing that much, but rather earning a lot of SL per game… But since your new, you will not survive top tier yet until you learned your enemy tanks/planes weaknesses, good/bad spots in maps, know when to destroy tank’s barrel so you can live and have a chance to destroy enemy without worry he will fire back, mechanics etc…etc…these learned skills/mechanics will help you survive and carry games and will profit more SL. But you learn them from the playing rank 1 vehicles and through the grind. If you skip, just asking to be jumped on with no idea how to survive and lose SL. Premium will only give you a 100% bonus on SL and RP rewards every match you play and grind faster. You still need to earn SL regardless if your premium or not to play the vehicles you want. That’s just how the game is designed, it is a F2P game. Gaijin has to make money somehow. Your welcome to pay them by buying SL with real money, your money. Either that or learn how to earn SL by playing better, learning and using premium account to your advantage while it’s still on. Using a premium vehicle also gives bonus reward, so there’s that. That’s all premium is.
I shown this before on another thread but seems relevant to share it here too.
Image above, I am premium, didn’t use premium vehicles. However, I lost a big chunk of my reward due to repair cost and ammo refills. But that’s due to the amount of vehicles I used for trying to win yet was defeated. Kept 1,618 SL in total out of 56k SL earned.
Image here, I died once, respawned again on 2nd vehicle and carried the game. I did well, won, repairs and ammo cost were minimal and kept 53k SL of 61k SL due to less vehicles used and surviving. If I were not premium, I wouldn’t make this much. Maybe would of earned around 30k SL and pocketed 23k SL due to repairs/ammo.
This one, premium saved my SL and still earned 11,759 SL to keep even though I earned 36k SL. If i weren’t for premium, I’d lose around -3k SL or more at Br at 9.0+. This was a bad game, but I had worse ones where I died a few times with 0 kills or anything then I truly lost around -20k SL. Worst matches.
You make SL by destroying players, getting achievements during battle, capturing zones, and not dieing and winning etc… 0 deaths = no repairs. You get a bonus % on SL if you win a match as well. Premium is also a booster for rewards. If defeated, you go home with decent SL or almost empty handed or with -SL instead.
To find out the receipt on how much you made total, check here:
Bottom right corner, click on the envelope, open then click battles at the top of envelope. This may help.
Why are you defending them? Im telling they are being deceptive and youre telling me that im being unreasonable. WHEN BUYING PREMIUM ACCOUNT I EXPECT TOP HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE GAME WITHOUT SPENING MORE MONEY. I dont think im being unfair here. What i didnt expect was that playing high tier cost additional money. As i wasnt at all introduced to that idea.
Losing silver is losing real life money. That makes sense for players that doesnt have premium. But if you have bought premium i dont expect you to have to pay more just because youre not a huge fucking nerd that memorize every fucking little thing aobut the game.
My point is simply, why the fuck im a losing silver (and again thats real life money) when i have premium. It doesnt even have to be that im a bad player. There are several factors that are out of my hand. For example, i just played a game died once and when spawning in the second time i gettting bombed to bits 20m outside of spawn. Yeah excuse for not being a pro gamer that can look into the future.
Another point what incentive do i have to ever by premium membership again when there is zero benefits. I know premium doesnt give you the whole tech tree. But i expect to be able to play the whole tech tree without spending more money when i reached top tier. And just to reiterate, taking silver away from players for simply playing the game is the exact same as there being a fee to play.
I know you probably dont get a lot of new players here on the forums. But i would get that most players dont expect to spend 2000 hours and 300 euros to play with a modern tank.
Where does Gaijin say that this is the case?!?
What a premium vehicle or premium account does is clearly explained, juts your wishful thinking that it should be something more is just that: YOUR wishful thinking.
Yoiu can very well progress through the ranks without ever touching a single real dollar, and I guess it’s probably the majority of the players who play the game exactly that way.
Getting premium vehicles and premium time only speeds up the research progress, as you earn more SL and RP whilc (in most cases) spending less for repairs. ONLY THAT.
But again, and for the last time: WHAT VEHICLE HAVE YOU PURCHASED AND WHAT ARE YOUR ISSUES WITH IT?
I do earn silver some games but then i have a couple of bad games or just games where i get sniped by a heli, then spawncamped by a jet bomber. You know,…
i checked and the repair time is two weeks. Because that makes sense how? i have given them my fucking money, i just wanna play the game and enjoy myself. I dont wanna play a business simulator. That aspect makes sense for the free part of the free to play game but it is not acceptable if youre a paying costumer.
Heres a great example of what i mean. In RB. I played CV9030 first and got one assist kill. Then i died. i spawn in again and theres someone camping main. I dont think that fair one bit. How do you guys think thats fair? And rememer silver eagles have real life value. So that round costed me money.
I bought the strv 81 (rb 52). I have no issues with that. I have issues with the game costing money just to play even after ive fucking payed for the game…
You have not paid for the game.
You have paid to be able to use the Premium Strv 81 (RB 52). Nothing else.
And as a side note: I myself don’t drive the CV9030 or Ikv 91-105, but the predecessor of the Ikv 91-05, the Ikv 91 is one of my best “money printers” in the game, even if it’s not premium! Fast, powerful gun and laser rangefinder at this BR - absolute monster!
I dont mean the tank. I mean ive payed for two months of premium membership.
And what in your expectation does premium member ship mean?
But tank premium or account premium dont give you a god mode …
if you’re just a target in battle, you shouldn’t spit at gaijin, but at the person between the chair and the keyboard.
I check your stats:
In RB ground: 0.37 kill / spawn. You spawn 3 times for 1 kill …
In SB ground: 0.24 kill / spawn. You spawn 4 times for 1 kill …
With your Strv 81 RB52, you spawn 351 times, die 307 times and … 167 kills … Even if the tank cost 2800 SL for repairs, you lost 2 tanks for 1 kill …
With your CV-90-30, you spawn 72 time, die 64 times for … 10 kills (with 1 plane) …
No surprise why you dont earn SL.
You want up too fast and you dont know the hight tier game mecanics …
Because you just are useless and dont know the game … SL are NOT real money and you dont need spend GE in SL if you know the game. If you need GE for purchase SL in hight tier battles, it is just because you dont understand the game. Return play in BR 2.7 with your Lago I and learn that parts of the game BEFORE up… And up PROGRESSIVELY…
You can buy ALL premium tanks, ALL premium planes, ALL premium boats, ALL premium helicopters, ALL time in premium account, if you dont learn the game, you will lost time, SL and FUN …
A new feature will be implemented for premium account: an “insurance” to prevent the player from losing SL through compensation in the event of negative income.
But if you continue play like you playing actualy, you dont earn any SL for purchase hight tiers tanks.
well you need to rethink because you are bieng unfair
no it isnt, in any way
you may need to temper your expectations in the future then, because that mindset wont help you with other things in real life
Not really. This is the concept of some mobile apps and games…and is usually explained as such.
Freemium games are a different concept. You can play for free, you have lots of content to explore and paying will either provide you PART of that content or SPEED UP progress. You cannot “buy the product”.
Both concepts exist and lots of examples of both are available.
I dont say i agree…BUT i personally “navigate” the concept as a F2P player…i dont expect to ever complete any game, but i rarely spend money on them…i enjoy the free parts and never expect to be a top player or own all the content.
Back in the days, we would buy a full game for 40EUR or such…and could play all the content…either offline or even online. Nowadays, we install and play for free…and some guys spend Hundreds or Thousands so a lot of us can keep playing for free…
AGAIN…dont say i like the concept…but apparently it works…
I dont really see HOW you were mislead…i assume that either 1)this is the first freemium game you play or 2) You are deliberately twisting the concept.
Feel free to indicate WHERE in the game info the description is wrong or misleading…
I seem to recall that BEFORE you buy premium membership you get a description of what you get with it…no?
https://store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=Premium-account-60-days-1
Premium account is a type of elite membership which provides a lot of bonuses:
But not a god mode who magicly learn to him how to play at the game …
