Modern aircraft and armaments (at least some missiles) are being added all the time. With the power of the new SAMs and the missile-carrying capacity of some aircraft and their technology, as well as the near-addition of all Gen 4+ aircraft, it becomes increasingly necessary to have mechanics that prevent further losses for both aircraft and ground units and maintain a balance between gameplay and historical accuracy. These mechanics need to be implemented soon: EW and ECM.
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ye, let just gaijin pull such complex mechanic in time for second dev server and subsequently live relase /s
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Wouldnt be their 1st lol
EF-111A raven and SU-24 are calling.
CAS in top tier its so op right now, no need to make them more powerful.
Also wouldnt trust Gaijin to implement these mechanics properly after seeing what they did to the LDIRCM
how would it even work
There are already such systems, aren’t they? Like on Su-39, just should be added to other planes which should have it, like F-104S/ASA for example.
I reckon its on the way, was actually expecting it this major update.
So now im guessing maybe next major or the one afterwards.
not a lot else this could really refer to, especially in the context of A2A prep before adding 5th Gens.
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My personal interpretation/guess of how it will work:
ECM
Totally passive mechanic, that will basically function like IRCM on the Su-39 or DIRCM on helis does for IR missiles, jammig radars or missiles, except that within a certain range it no longer functions. Also, certain ECM will only affect certain radar frequencies. So if your radar operates on a different frequency, it wont be affected at all.
EW
Not sure on this, but I see it being more active, than passive, maybe have some kind of charge mechanic, that allows you to temporarily jam a specific target? Jamming a target drains charge, so its limited duration, charge slowly rebuilds but you have to use it sparringly, but its overall a hard mechanic to balance within a game setting whilst still keep it fun and some what historically accurate (done fully IRL for example, Mig-29s and I think also Su-27s should be totally unable to use their radar if being targeted by a Tornado F3)
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EW Just mean Elektronik Warfare. Ther IS ECM Like you explaned and Ther IS ESM (Elektronik Support messure)
ESM IS able to locate Radar contacts and Pin the on a map. ITS Like vor better Situation awerneas.
Some ESM funktion Ar already in the Game, Look at the Eurofighter RWR IT got only the full Radar coverage and band coverage because of ESM. IT have often a much better Band coverage and its a rwr that can locate Radar with pinpoint accuresy.
ECM stands for electronic counter measures. This is systems like Sky Shadow on the Tornado IDS
EW stands for electronic warfare.
RWR or radar warning reciever is another thing entirely.
I’ve never heard of anything referred to ESM. But sounds like the Typhoons DASS which integrates RWR, MAWS, ECM, EW, CMs, TRDs all together into a single system
Gaijin can’t even make «historical» DIRCM.
https://www.eurofighter.com/the-aircraft/features#sensors
Electronic Support Measures and Electronic Counter Measures pods (ESM/ECM), Missile Approach Warners (MAW), Chaff and Flare dispenser, an optional Laser Warning Receiver (LWR), Radar-Warning-Receivers (RWR) and Towed Decoy.
That ar the pods were the ecm and towed decoy is
Ah yes make it impossible to shoot down all CAS in GRB. First DIRCM, now ECM.
And they feel ofended when you tell them that CAS doesn’t belong in ground battles because of how unbalanced it is.
Ah yes, people denying the introduction of new Aircraft mechanics that would largely affect Air Vs air performance because of how it would affect tanks in an entirely different gamemode.
And they feel offended when you remind them that the game doesn’t revolve around GRB
Do educate me on how you’re going to balance ECM for the ARH SAMs that got recently introduced, I’m quite interested in your input about this.
Simple. Have the top tier ground radars powerful enough to burn through most of the ECM, so as long as they can maintain DL to until their missile is within the min range, say 10-15 ISH km? It won’t have any impact at all.
In terms of GRB though, it’s the 11.0 ISH aircraft that are most in need of some extra survivability
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I don’t trust Gaijin to implement ECM the way you described. They’re gonna make it work like a freakin forcefield similar to what they did to LDIRCM on helicopters.
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EW is in development, likely will come next year.
That’s exactly why I’m bringing it up, and it’s very interesting. I know it might not be included in this update, but the latest 4+ generation aircraft are being added, and this topic should become more relevant soon. I find it very interesting how it will be implemented in the game, and it would be great if it were also implemented in CAS. There are also EW vehicles specifically designed for this purpose, and some of the most modern MBTs have electronic countermeasures (ECM) in their systems against, for example, laser-guided, TV-guided, and IR-guided weapons.
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