Larger maps, further aircraft spawn and some other changes should fix it.
Even SEAD is possible soon.
Nerfing systems unrealistically is not the way to go.
Very true, especially your point about larger maps and aircraft spawn. I like the idea of not nerfing something that is meant to be performing well, but it can get very overpowering we see that constantly in our game. The best solution is to come up with counter technology that can deal with it.
These systems will be 13.0, there isn’t a single plane at that BR that has low gen thermals.
Oh okay so you just want them to be like shooting fish in a barrel, also Pantsir can supress you and shoot you out of the sky as soon as you spawn lol.
Kh-38 is a guaranteed kill with just the push of a button, I think ground units deserve fnf weapons too.
Not a single plane what about the 12.3s dude they will get up tiered automatically, that is why I pushed this thread cause its not just 13.0 to 14.0 planes that will be affected.
Dude I don’t want them like a fish in a barrel, I said within 1km away from spawn area (deployment of launcher). Not around the hole map.
As for the KH-38, it is slightly harder to get a kill than these aa systems that you place around the map fired automatically at the lock of a radar system. (don’t get me wrong the KH-38 is relatively easy mode) But think about the rest of the planes and don’t just focus on one tech KH-38, they will be at an even bigger disadvantage.
If you think the game would be boring without getting blown up by cowards who hide in the sky, then you must be a masochist.
I enjoy shooting down CAS. I enjoy blowing up tanks and spaa. I do CAP, CAS and i use the spaa. I die to people that use the same tactics. Where’s the problem. With only tanks the game would rapidly become dull, like ARB. The lack of objective makes it like that. Also, you can’t really hide in the sky, can you?
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sadbecause cas wont be op anymore and you need skill now?
Look I started of entirely as a tanker, then graduate to air man. You should do the same it is much harder to learn and operate an airplane or helicopter in game than a tank. Even simple missiles like the fire and forget type require you to maneuver and fire off a missile at great speeds not at 35km or less or sitting still . AAs immediately track you and all they have to do is press one button and follow the aircraft. That is much easier than operating a straight forward system like the SU30 SM having thermal sights and KH-38. Even harder to pick out ground targets in a premium F-18 for example at 12.3 br. I use it in combo with my American top tier line up.
Remember getting to an aircraft like an F-15 or Su30 or Rafael/Eurofighter etc. takes way more than reaching top tier mbts. Being an ace like bad karma or hunter (famous content creators) takes quiet a lot of knowledge and skill in operating a pc or joystick at that level.
Dont take it as if you are destroying mbts they are just models, enjoy the game mode and learn a new way of playing the game.
Reaching cas top tier is a skill in itself, flying and getting frags in air is much harder, I can operate at low altitudes dont worry about that, I know notching and multipathing pretty well. But sitting like you on the ground and waiting to press a button and move 3 pixels does not require any effort.
It will when youre trying to get killed by aircraft and ground vehicles. Earlier it didn’t take any effort to deal with sams because their missiles weren’t even maneuverable enough to hit someone going mach 1 perpindicular. Now you have to rethink how you do cas because sams aren’t useless. You get to pick when and where and i get to pick when ill shoot and how much. Have fun
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Ok do you fly in and participate in air battles as well as close air support? If you never did then it seems easy until you get in a plane it is harder than it looks. Of course its not that overly complex especially with the new missile systems and the way aa works at the moment. That will change I understand, that is not where the problem lies, you cant just pick spots on the entire map and place aa launchers where you want. Planes are not ground vehicles they cant hide behind trees. Once your launcher vehicles are out of map range they can only be controlled by ai (that means all you have to do is get a lock and automatically the missiles will be launched, even Mavericks and KH-38 are harder to launch than that)
Otherwise enjoy the game as well, if implemented correctly this update should be balancing things out.
if its so hard why dont you go in a flarakrad and ill come and trash you
no its not hard to launch a maverick and kh-38
yes you get a difficulty penalty on the technical side because you get to pick where and when to attack
Well flarak can hide in between buildings and trees do indeed make it harder to detect if there are other vehicles around the flarak I wont be able to lock on to you, hope for splash damage which is not a guarantee. On top of that you can pop smoke, by that time I will either be within range or have to disengage and re commit.
On top of that there might be a Itom or pantsir to help you out.
Sure Flarak is at a big disadvantage at this moment, wont dispute that, that is why new aa systems are being added. I have the flarak bus it is not great and not on par with cas but its too easy to play.
bla bla bla go hide behind a tree that will save you
you say that while youd not get a single kill against my jet while i kill your team
and there might be 4 jets in the air on your side
oh and they all trash these spaa
Well not completely, yes spaa are quite bad at the moment but that will change. I am sorry but at times you need to learn how to fly that is why it is called ground rb involves cas and helis. At times aa are weaker than planes and in irl in lots of circumstances that is the case, stationary targets are easier to hit. Not counting Patriot Pac3s, IRST, S-400, 300 and pantsir in combination with ground radar and AWACS then yes sam batteries have an advantage.
With ITOM I have been able to get several kills and VT-1 one or two kills a lot of times zero kills.
There should be a deployment time and a limit on how far you can place the launcher from your radar vehicle.
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I agree with that one for sure.
I am the opposite. I love planes, I use planes, I main planes. Guess what though, I don’t value bombing defenceless tanks as a win. Sure, I do it, but it is low skill and requires no merit or honour.
There shouldn’t be any delays or deployment times at all, it gives CAS players the upper hand, and there shouldn’t be any limits on how far you can deploy the launcher system either because these radar trucks are massive and slow. Except for the SLAMRAAM Humvee.
I am not really counting it as win but having taken down a few tanks then spawn in a plane get an air frag and a few more tanks while maneuvering at low altitude is kabanga on the money. Or as I like to call it a frying pan on tank commanders head.
Is there any honor in hiding around the corner or abusing spots on a map? For those kinda plays a special frying pan exists (38) and to buzz them with that priceless whizzzz sound (muuua, perfecto).