Not 100% true but quite near.
First, we should know, AVIC, is a nation-owned company, so unlike NG, LM and Boeing, they’re not completely competive but have many cooprates. For example, a production method from Shenyang is used on J-20.
Next, what we called as Shenyang(601 brueau and 112 factory) or Chengdu(611 bureau and 132 factory) is 2 parts: Design Bureau and Factory. For example, it’s predicted that Chengdu don’t bulid J-10 anymore, and Guizhou, which have their own JL-9, will contiune production.
But yeah, they’re have competitions to make a better design(like the failed Shenyang Gen 5[not J-35] or Nanchang Q-6), and SAC have more cooprate with navy.
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its similar to soviet procurement right?
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I mean, I’m not a fan of the J-35 series for a reason.
Shenyang corp had my respect up until the J-35, now it gained it back through that aircraft that they test flied a couple of days ago.
It is understandable since Chengdu has much more experience with indigenous design, while Shenyang was stuck with Flanker variants, so J-35 will be very similar to F-35 because it is safer and will carry less risks. It is the cheaper option compared to J-20 anyway.
Three engines are needed to meet performance targets, there are rumors that the MTOW is in the 50 ton-range, which is pretty insane.
only 4 AAM?
Made by China=Cardboard
Made by US, Europe=Best jet in the world.
Funny logic
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Irrc those are pretty long range.
There is more to the jet we have yet to see though.
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Dear fellow - read what I wrote.
‘For all we know it could be made of cardboard.’
That’s the whole point. We don’t know squat about it. It might be made of some super-duper RAM that makes it invisible to sensors. It might be made from conventional metal. All we do know is that it obviously flies, and that they purposefully flew it in public for all to see in a not-so-subtle ‘look at this!’ moment.
I would question anyone who asserts anything other than those basic facts.
Sixth Gen? We don’t know, do the Chinese even subscribe to our Western Generations of groupings (which basically are often so fuzzy they are nigh-pointless).
How many engines and what type? Dunno. It has three tailpipes but that is no surety.
Stealthy? It ‘looks’ stealthy but again, we don’t know.
Supersonic? Making a faceted body supersonic is awkward but not impossible. We don…you get the idea.
I’m personally dubious of each and every thing marketed as a ‘gamechanger’. That applies every bit to a Western aircraft as a non-Western one. The proof is in the pudding as they say.
I could point to Tempest and Dragonfire as being superweapons that will change the face of air-to-air warfare - but again, I don’t know the first bloody thing about them so any assertions are pointless.
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I don’t want to get too political, but how exactly is it that these companies all compete against each other if they’re all subsidiaries of AVIC? Although the Chinese economy has free-market elements, it is still tightly regulated by a one-party state. I’m curious how motivated a subsidiary like Chengdu or Shenyang is to win if they’re under AVIC anyways. Thanks!
Extremely beautiful plane, I must say. It’s really evocative of Ace Combat.
I’ve heard people saying that these control surfaces use morphing technology instead of just hinges, but I find that hard to believe when we can visibly see the housings for the actuators. But maybe just part of the flaps are flexible?? IDK tbh
That image is just a fan-creation. We have no idea of the loadout.
Tacit Blue used wing-warping. I recall reading it was more trouble to the design than it was worth…
It would probably make sense if they stuck to conventional flight surfaces for something that size.
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oh ok
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It’s possible. However, materials science has come far in the past 40 years. Nonetheless, I would be very surprised if the Chinese managed to perfect such technology, whilst also ensuring the integrity of the stealth coating. It’s also just a demonstrator, so I can’t speculate too much tbh
That being said, there have been a few different contenders for NGAD that have already flown, and an USAF spokesman said it has incredible technologies. So maybe such a thing like wing morphing is already posssible
PL17 x4😘👍
Could be that the image is blurry, but it looks like they put some sort of spandex skin on top of the aileron hinges. I can’t see any gaps from the wing body to the ailerons themselves. Reminds me of the GINA bmw concept car, it had a special fabric on top so doors, hood, etc., wouldn’t have gaps in them.
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Anyone have any better photos of the SAC plane :(
