Nerf F-14 or bump their BR

the Iranian f14 having R27Rs in its complement makes it perfect for the merge. Missile isn’t the fastest but it’s harder to dodge so you’ll clap tf out of people who would otherwise dodge an AIM 7S/M.

Hahaha!!! Good one man. So I was right, you want Gaijin to balance this game by gut feeling.
If they were to only balance vehicles listening to the opinions of this playerbase we’d have Tiger 2 tanks at 4.7 fighting 75mm shermans.

The absolute worst idea I’ve seen in a minute. All video game compagnies use their internal metrics to balance their multiplayer games, Gaijin is no exception, deal with it. WT wouldn’t have lasted 2 years with your idea.

I’ve never seen anyone ask for anything like that before.

I think that Gaijin should take player opinion into account, like they currently do. Gaijin also needs to rely less on “efficiency” and more on comparisons and vehicle stats. The players are better than Gaijin than balancing, since no sane person would put the Char25T at the same BR as the object 906.

Let me rephrase, they should take players opinions on the direction of the game i.e. new game modes, smaller lobbies, new maps, new types of vehicles, weapons, etc. They should not let something as important as game balance in the hands of a vocal majority however.

I’ve never seen anyone ask for anything like that before.

Where do you think the “Germany suffers” meme came from?

If they were to listen to players this is what would happen (asking to keep the PTL02/WMA301 at 8.3) - look at the upvotes. Yeah no thanks.

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My point is, is that they already take player opinion into the balancing of vehicles, but ultimately they have the final say.

They need to rely less on player stats, and more on objective facts for balance.

FFS… gajin put this idiotic plane at higher br. HOW TF HOWWWWW i can fight againts f14 in my mig21bis… Maps flats as table top im on 25m above ground and guess what… get hit from 120km… My radar cant even spot this most noobest plane ever and i go to garage cuz fucking multipathing got idiotic boost… ffs worst upadte ever ruined all game at 11.3

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anyone who thinks this was a good idea is a total moron… plus the Fakour is far better than the pheonix purely due to the range, and speed of the missile

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Well, because it is USA. look at all these crybabies in this topic. USA will always have superior jets. for example, if they are given a mig-29, then it should be at 11.3 because “oh there are just 2 R-27ER”. We have already seen this on F-104 F-8U F-5E F-14A F-14B and F-15.
R-77 is the second worst ARH missile now, only better than AIM-54. Based on these USA crybabies’ logic, it would be reasonable to move all Russian jets with R-77 0.3 downwards.

If they are so useless, we should ask gaijin to simply remove AIM-54 and fk90. don’t you think it’s a good idea? after all, it’s useless anyway, right? only.to slow you down in a dogfight.

It works against player who use decent fighters as B-17(mostly F-4) or people who actually try BVR in high altitude.

Problem is there are tons of dumb players in Jet RB match who doesn’t even check RWR.

F-14 is too op at its current BR. It needs to be two BR ticks higer. With multipath nerfed, superflat maps und high rise trees you simply can’t fly low enough to survive these Phoenix mass barrages. Teams are fully stacked with F-14 and often dozens of incoming Phoenixes nuke most of the team in one go.

They doesn’t ignore Russia and other red team.
MiG-19PT/S was good and same tier with F-104A rn, MiG-21SMT/MF is still good, MiG-21bis was good when it comes. J-7E is OP as fuck rn.

MiG-23MLD/MLA was insane until F-14A comes in the game.
Also, R-27ER is still best SARH in the game.

This two contradict each other, a super flat map is easy to multipath on because it is flat

Also you have a radar altimeter now I really don’t want to hear complaints about multipathing. It is sososo much easier with radar altimeters, Gaijin only added them for the people complaining about multipathing.

Must be unlucky, but every time I try to multipath I get killed or heavily damaged from fox3’s.
If I fly at ±50m above ground the missile will still intercept me close enough for the fuse to act in my vicinity.
If I fly lower I often get damaged from the ground hit anyway.

How do you guys still multipath? I only rely on notching or avoiding WEZ altogether.

Yeah multipathing above 50 meters has been very unreliable for me, when I do multipath on like a stock grind or something I aim for 40 meters, the faster you’re going also helps you a ton

At 30-40m I still get splash damage regularly, and if it is a phoenix / fakour that will 99% crit me so I never relied on multipathing after the 60m ceiling change.

Only time it works well is above water, and even then I got killed once while flying like 15m above sea level

I’ve only ever had splash damage happen to me once, maybe because I don’t multipath a ton but that’s not an experience I’ve have a lot

I think the biggest trick to to not have one fired at you in the first place

You’re talking about fox3s too or fox1? Multipathing against fox1’s still work ok for me (except r-27er), only the top-tier missiles with IOG make me avoid multipathing altogether

Yeah only one phoenix has ever got me while I was multipathing with splash damage, that was because it was late game and I had just got done with a dogfight and was at like 400kph

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Yep, that is my same experience. Never been killed by one, but did loose the tip of a wing from splash damage in the Tornado F3. Though new FM should make that a non-existant event now.

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